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Old 05-27-2007, 10:24 AM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $98.60
BB: $130.40
UTG: $104.60
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $112.35</font>
CO: $137.15
BTN: $163.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13.00</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $9.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($27.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $22.00 </font>


Villian is fish_emporium and appears to be solid playing 21/15.

I never know what to do in spots like this so just bet. But thinking about it, whats his 3bet calling range? AQs/AK/88-AA? Should I just give up on seeing this flop?
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

Good.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

This is a very favorable flop for a cbet with AK. In fact it's the best possible flop without a pair or a draw.

44-88 will fold often here, and if they do call you still have 6 outs and some backdoors to the nuts, and you are in postion as well.

If he check-raises you, you obv should give up, but on these kind of flops I cbet here 100% of the time.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:59 AM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

You'll usually get two shots at an A or K even if you get called. Def bet. And double barrel if villain calls flop a lot.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

I never bet that big in a 3-bet pot...just a personal thing tho I guess.

I make it like $18.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:06 AM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

Yeah I'd make it $20.50

Don't like $22.00 at all
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

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Yeah I'd make it $20.50

Don't like $22.00 at all

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you guys serious?
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

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Yeah I'd make it $20.50

Don't like $22.00 at all

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you guys serious?

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I don't think he is, but I am...

$18 reaps the same amount of folding for a cheaper price. Do it 100x and I've put in $400 less (ya that's a lot of money).
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

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This is a very favorable flop for a cbet with AK. In fact it's the best possible flop without a pair or a draw.

44-88 will fold often here, and if they do call you still have 6 outs and some backdoors to the nuts, and you are in postion as well.

If he check-raises you, you obv should give up, but on these kind of flops I cbet here 100% of the time.

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You are right sir
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:01 PM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default Re: AKs - I suck at playing flops after 3bet

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$18 reaps the same amount of folding for a cheaper price. Do it 100x and I've put in $400 less (ya that's a lot of money).


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I'm not sure about this. A bet on the other side of $20 has extra FE. EG 20 feels a lot worse to call on a draw than 19. If I'm thinking about betting close to 20 or 30 I always bet slightly on the other side of it. Its been discussed before.
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