nl50 AQo

[robert jordan]

Villan is 48/15/1.42 (not very large sample, but adequate)

Hero is 20/16/2

Can I squeeze any more value out of this? I was a little worried that he caught two pair or somethin on me, so i was weak on the river.. but the river is a bad place to get greedy..

What do you guys think?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $58.35
BB: $15.90
UTG: $50.75
MP: $60.30
CO: $80.20
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $51.10</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, UTG calls $4.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($13.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, UTG calls $10.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($33.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Pot Size: $33.25 ($1.65 Rake)

[bozzer]

I thought this might be worth a valuebet but apparently not:

a calling range for a river bet of $15 might be:

{A9, AhXh, AJ?, A6?, J9, 96, 77, 88, TT, AK, AT, A8, A7, KK, AA}

board: 8dTs7d
Hand Pot
AhQs 21.87%
A9,Ah*h,AJ,J9,96,77,88,TT,AK,AT,A8 78.13%

http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/s...amp;h4=&amp;h5=

[robert jordan]

[ QUOTE ]
I thought this might be worth a valuebet but apparently not:

a calling range for a river bet of $15 might be:

{A9, AhXh, AJ?, A6?, J9, 96, 77, 88, TT, AK, AT, A8, A7, KK, AA}

board: 8dTs7d
Hand Pot
AhQs 21.87%
A9,Ah*h,AJ,J9,96,77,88,TT,AK,AT,A8 78.13%

http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/s...amp;h4=&amp;h5=

[/ QUOTE ]


what exactly does that 78% mean, in relation to value betting this river?

78% chance i'm beat if he calls the river bet?

[canavarr]

this guy is really loose, so its hard to put him on a hand preflop. can have any Ax, Kx suited, medium pair, SC's. Looks like he was drawing to some kind of a str8 with connectors, maybe combo draw, like a pair and str8 draw. or maybe A9.
there is only two villain hands that I can think of that you beat but will pay you off in the end. AJ and A9. all the other hands that you beat, will fold to a river value bet.

[Shrooma]

I like it how played. Bet sizing should be pot-sized to cover for draws out there. Checking behind on the river is fine in my opinion, as a value bet will probable be called or raised only by hands that have you beat. Furthermore, you avoid check-raising by a made or slow-played hand.

[bozzer]

[ QUOTE ]



what exactly does that 78% mean, in relation to value betting this river?

78% chance i'm beat if he calls the river bet?

[/ QUOTE ]

yes, according to the range i gave. you'd need at least 50% equity to bet the river for value (in fact slightly more because you open yourself to being raised if you bet).

[Snafu'd]

His hand really looks like a busted draw or a very lucky QJ. Most sets and straights are raising us somewhere in this hand prior to the river. Sure, he may have hit the A with an AdXd or A9, AJ and pay us off, but I really hate it when we get checkraised on the river because we are beat always. You'd also have a hard time folding to the c/r given the pot odds. Add all this up and I don't mind the river check behind.

[Snafu'd]

[ QUOTE ]
I thought this might be worth a valuebet but apparently not:

a calling range for a river bet of $15 might be:

{A9, AhXh, AJ?, A6?, J9, 96, 77, 88, TT, AK, AT, A8, A7, KK, AA}

board: 8dTs7d
Hand Pot
AhQs 21.87%
A9,Ah*h,AJ,J9,96,77,88,TT,AK,AT,A8 78.13%

http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/s...amp;h4=&amp;h5=

[/ QUOTE ]
I do think you need to discount some of the sets, straights, and two pair hands somewhat because he is going to go for a checkraise before the river almost always with those hands.

[robert jordan]

[ QUOTE ]
His hand really looks like a busted draw or a very lucky QJ. Most sets and straights are raising us somewhere in this hand prior to the river. Sure, he may have hit the A with an AdXd or A9, AJ and pay us off, but I really hate it when we get checkraised on the river because we are beat always. You'd also have a hard time folding to the c/r given the pot odds. Add all this up and I don't mind the river check behind.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea, i just wanted to make sure i wasn't bein too nitty.. thanks all