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Old 05-22-2007, 10:28 PM
delta k delta k is offline
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Default If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

Sometimes I raise here pf but I don't have any reads as I'm new to the table. Folding pf to the raise isn't the end of the world, but closing the action makes it a call, IMO.

On the flop I figured he COULD be trapping. He COULD call w/ overs if I just call. And the button bet COULD be because we both checked, so I think a c/r there is a pretty good play, and I can probably fold to anything else over the top.

The turn brings the flush and I figured I'd rep it...thoughts? Do you buy my line?

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Absolute NL Hold'em Ring - 2/2
Blinds (6 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: CO ($74)
Seat 2: Button ($445.20)
Seat 3: Small blind (Hero) ($201)
Seat 4: Big blind ($231.24)
Seat 5: UTG ($224.80)
Seat 6: LP ($526.25)

Preflop: Hero is Small blind with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls ($2), Hero calls ($1), Big blind raises ($10), Button calls ($8), Hero calls ($8)

Flop: ($31) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, Big blind checks, Button bets ($14), Hero raises ($46), Big blind folds, Button calls ($32)

Turn: ($123) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets ($75)
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:31 PM
yid3655 yid3655 is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

without reads this is an extremely risky play and I don't like it. Would only contemplate doing this against a known opponent who i'm well aware knows me
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:36 PM
kayfish77 kayfish77 is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

preflop is very very bad. i do this alot, but its pretty high variance and probably marginally ev at best since it needs to succeed alot more than it fails.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:36 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

I think button very often has the hand you are repping given his small flop bet.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:44 PM
delta k delta k is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

Hmm, ya, I thought he would have clubs pretty often but when i went for the c/r I figured I should probably rep the flush if it came, too.

As for pf, I don't think it's bad but it's probably not great. But closing the action, good relative position and a good hand makes it a call for me.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

a weak bet is one of two things.

1) iam trying to win the pot in a bluff for the least amount of money

2) i dont want you to fold but i cant let another card come for free. OR ive got a sexy sexy draw.

when you raise and he calls you can throw number one out the window. With no reads on the players and you being an unknown i doooont think your making a smart play.

IF you wanted to be real sexy, youd CRAI on the turn... now thats something thats believable but iam just an absolute SICKO and you aren't so i dont recommend that.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:05 PM
early325 early325 is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

I buy your line as a hand like 4c5c, 5c7c, 7c8c, etc.

The problem is, his line looks like a draw (although it could be the same draw you have) -- if you are going to bet this turn with the intent of getting it in anyways, a shove isn't too much more than a PSB. Although it seems like, as played, b/f is the line to take.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:18 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

I don't like it since he can very often have a flush, pair+club draw etc and won't fold. Flop is meh, I like calling and trying to let BB come along for the ride. Raising isn't terrible though.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:20 PM
GrandMelon GrandMelon is offline
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

I try this occasionally and it never works
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: If it\'s not standard at least tell me it\'s dead sexy

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I try this occasionally and it never works

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