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1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
MP2 is like 20/9 over 200 hands and has a high postflop aggression and always c-bets. Others are generaly fishy calling stations with <30 hands history.
My image is very tight oop but im limping into alot of multi way pots in position. I think I like my line here but im not sure. Thoughts? Preflop: Hero is BB with As, 2s. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (10 SB) 2c, 6s, Qh (5 players) SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (9 BB) 8h (4 players) Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds. River: (12 BB) 2h (3 players) Hero checks, MP2 bets, Button calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, Button folds. Final Pot: 17 BB |
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
Give it up on the flop. If you were only paying 1 bet then seeing the turn is worth it, but at two bets it's no longer profitable, even with the backdoor draw.
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
Fold the flop.
Rest is good. |
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
ya fold flop.
once you called the flop and all those folks called, however, you're commited to seeing if you can improve on the river. |
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
I was thinking because of MP2s postflop agression are we not getting implied odds to call the flop? No?
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
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I was thinking because of MP2s postflop agression are we not getting implied odds to call the flop? No? [/ QUOTE ] It is actually fairly close. The call would be fine with the implied odds if yo were to win every time you improved. However, once you add in the times (and they will be rather costly) that you improve and are still behind it tips the decision to a fold. In addition, you can't be sure that it's going to cost you only two bets to see the next card. With a big draw this isn't a concern but here you really don't want to end up being stucked in a capped flop with only bottom pair. |
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
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I was thinking because of MP2s postflop agression are we not getting implied odds to call the flop? No? [/ QUOTE ] If you give yourself the full 6.5 outs (3 aces, 2 deuces, backdoor flush), then you have enough in immediate odds to call 2 on the flop. The problem is that you very rarely have all of those outs (at the very least it's likely that at least one of those aces is dead), and you could catch the ace & still lose the pot to a hand like AQ/A6, plus of course to a set. Even AK would end up beating you with an ace on the turn & Q, 6, or K on the river. So your reverse implied odds are also pretty significant here, and give you more than enough reason to fold for 2 bets on the flop. Plus the possibility that it gets 3bet and/or capped behind you. |
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Re: 1/2 A2 OOP multi way pot. Correct play?
I would have donked the flop. Is that a spew? As played I fold the flop when it's two cold to me OOP.
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