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Old 05-16-2007, 03:07 PM
JackSevenSuited JackSevenSuited is offline
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Default tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

are either of these foldable?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.50
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $56.25</font>
UTG: $39.90
MP: $49.25
CO: $48.60
BTN: $60.35

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50, CO folds, SB calls $2.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($12.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.50</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $46.50</font>


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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $42.00
BB: $45.25
UTG: $50.00
MP: $15.95
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $35.05</font>
BTN: $65.40

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, MP calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($6) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $4.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($14) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $9.00</font>, Hero calls $9.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($32) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $34.00[/color
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:12 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

Hand 1: This is a set 60% of the time, a flush draw 10% of the time, and two pair 30% of the time, imo.

Hand 2: 3-bet flop. Push turn.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:16 PM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

Hand 1 is a fold. I'm learning, although slowly, that minraises of c-bets mean, "I can beat ace-high!" Shoving against c-bets means, "I don't care what you have. I win."

Hand 2--please stop playing sets like a calling station. Honestly, the flop call is fine. It's a dry board, and we'll get more money this way. On the turn, though, we need to start assuming he has an ace. Push.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

hand 1: easy fold without lots of info on opponent.... for example, i know he open limps ak and kq--- he is shove happy
hand 2: c/r turn or bet it harder.....
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:25 PM
Vyse Vyse is offline
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

1. Difficult to fold it in the middle of the hand, but yeah, you're likely beat. Unless you've seen him shove marginal hands like this -- say, AK or KQ -- this would be a very bad call.

2. Plz raise turn. Please shove over him on river.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:27 PM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

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hand 2: c/r turn or bet it harder.....

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He can't c/r turn.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:29 PM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

BTW--you did not raise NEARLY enough PF.

Remember, 4BB+1BB for every limper. 4 limpers=8BB=$4.00.

Plus, if you're in the blinds, I like to add an additional 2BB just because we're going to be so OOP for the rest of the hand. I make it 5 to go preflop.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

haha the red writing threw me off..... jesus, please raise turn.........
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

Adding in a whopping 2 BB just because you're in the blinds = not very wise.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: tough spots: easy folds or instacalls?

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Adding in a whopping 2 BB just because you're in the blinds = not very wise.

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Please explain.

My BIGGEST pet peeve with this place lately is that there's rarely an explanation for sweeping generalizations, and nobody learns a damn thing.

Why wouldn't it be a good idea to reduce implied odds when we'll be OOP for the rest of the hand? Seems extremely logical.
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