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Old 05-30-2007, 05:22 AM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

i got to talking about this hand with a fellow microer and we were fiercely debating pf. if i do the math right, we're getting about 8 : 1.5 immediately with the probable outcome of one of the blinds (the bb is very loosepassive) coming along as well. call it 9 : 1.5 or 6 : 1 for now. what is your range here for calling 1.5 (as opposed to 3betting)? i said any pocket pair say eights and below plus middle/high suited connectors -- this created some drama.

plus we have position. what say you guys? if we had 22, call here pf too right?

as far as postflop, standard right?

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, hero calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10SB, 5 players)
hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, 2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, MP3 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to hero.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:41 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

For me preflop is fairly close (I know there are quite a few players who would always call this) with 3 in. I make the decision to play or not based upon if those who have put money in are generally good or bad players.

Easy call (or raise if appropriate) with any pair.

Postflop is standard.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

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i said any pocket pair say eights and below plus middle/high suited connectors

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Yup! Postflop is standard. Also, if you think your hand is strong enough to c/r here, I don't see why you don't think it is in the other hand. Your position is different, but I'm not sure that will dissuade anyone with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to keep going.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:15 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

depends if BB is loose or not. if he is loose i 3bet, if not i just call
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

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depends if BB is loose or not. if he is loose i 3bet, if not i just call

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3betting this is so blah I'm not sure what to say because I don't know what your rational is.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Thomas Newton Thomas Newton is offline
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

I need some more discussion of the threebie.

I'm in with any pair or suited conns that I'm not raising with.

Nh - I guess noone had a broadway club?
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

You would probably be interested in this old classic:

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...te_id/1#import

As well as my current preflop thread.

I like your play on every street,
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:30 PM
Befolder Befolder is offline
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

Live I call because I'll win the most when I hit because they're idiots, online I fold here, but it's pretty close.

If my mood is right, I call. As you can see this is all very unscientific.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 2/4, bam! interesting pf decision!

i think i could 3bet every now and then for metagame/deception but it's certainly not standard in a fullring game
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