Pushing Small Edges Versus Small Stacks

[Al Mirpuri]

I play the 9 player 25c/50c $50 max buyin (how do i show that 50cNL?) and I am new to this forum so howdy.

The question is simple: is it correct to push small edges for the small stack's whole stack for example, there is a late position raise by short stack and I have a pocket nines or I have Ace-King in cut off/button versus two/threesmall stacks.

Thanks for any and all responses.

I am just finding my feet at no limit ring games but I have Phil Gordons two books and NLHTAP is on order.

Another question is how big do you have to play in order to make $20 an hour online? I will be three tabling in order to achieve this. (When people write 100NL is that the size of the bring in or is it the size of the buy in?)

[Panthro]

howdy

NL50 or 50NL

AK has good equity against most (good)shortstacks LP opening ranges, and 99 is borderline in FR depending on how tight/loose they are PF. Play around w/ Pokerstove once you get a feel for what they're opening with.

Depends what your winrate is.

100NL is the buy in ($0.5/$1 blinds)

[TheBob]

Howdy.

[Cry Me A River]

Here's the thing.

There are two types of shortstacks. There's the shortstack uber-donk who'll happily push in with 44 on a flop full of paint. Then there's the shortstackers who have a clue and play something resembling a proper shortstacking strategy.

Against the former I'll "stack off" really, really light if they push, including say AK on a low flop particularly depending on their stack size because they'll push worse overcards a lot. And even if they have a pair, you're usually getting (pretty close to) odds due to their stack size.

Against the latter it's a lot trickier. One the one hand, they'll often have some idea about fold equity so they'll push in good spots. OTOH, they're not idiots so they're much more likely to have a reasonable hand if that FE is not there.



Most sites have the same buy-in/BB ratio for NL (100BB max buy-in) so $100NL is $.50/$1 and you're playing $50NL.

As far as hourly rate, depends entirely on your win rate but it's pretty easy to figure.

Assume 60 hands an hour. If you play $50NL and win 3PTBB/100 that's $1.80 per hour per table. 3 tables is $5.4/hr.

If you play $50NL and win 5PTBB/100 that's $3 per hour per table. 3 tables is $9/hr.

Also consider rakeback and clearing bonuses which can make a big difference at these stakes...

[Albert Moulton]

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Yes. In fact, I'll often make an overly large reraise over a short stack's raise to isolate him and go heads up for any dead money that called the short-stack's initial raise before the action got to me. That extra overlay often makes going into the coinflip (which is typically the case vs many shorties) +EV.

But, by short stack, I'm talking 10bb or less. I don't pull that vs a 30bb shorty.

[bottomset]

I'd only ever think of folding 99 or AK vs the meganit shortstacks, AK is a big hand, pretty large edge