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Old 05-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Watkins Watkins is offline
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 7 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero .....

So I thought about a b/f here but villain was unknown to me at the time and figured there weren't many cards left to hurt me so I considered a check behind to induce a river bet and see a showdown. c/f didn't enter my head for some reason.

What's my best line?
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:43 PM
Bilgefisher Bilgefisher is offline
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Default Re: Turn makes it messy

I honestly don't see any other way to play it then b/f. If you have a read on your opponent as someone who would try a raise bluff here (which he didn't)you could check call down I suppose.

Bet for value. Your hand is likely best.

edit: I could also be talked into the check behind in hopes of inducing a river bluff.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Turn makes it messy

gotta bet fold, the chances of him having a diamond are not super high and what is he raising that we beat?
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:46 PM
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what is he raising that we beat?

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Point taken. Some opponents get a bit spewy and raise bluff here at times. It would be extremely read specific to make the call down on that.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:59 PM
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gotta bet fold, the chances of him having a diamond are not super high and what is he raising that we beat?

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Yeah, I thought this but then I figured if I was putting in another bet why not do this on the river and see a showdown? There really can't be that many cards that can hurt me now?
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:13 PM
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Straights
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Turn makes it messy

I would have automatically checked behind on the turn to see a showdown, which is wrong. A read would be nice, but if you're ahead (and I think you are enough of the time), checking behind gives him a freeroll for 9 outs to tie, and sometimes another 3 outs to hit his straight, sometimes a couple more for two pair. A turn bluff is so unlikely against an unknown in this spot, and a bet will sometimes induce him to incorrectly fold a KQ or similar -- b/f.
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:27 AM
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Reminds me a lot of

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD
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