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Old 05-04-2007, 04:42 PM
fsoyars fsoyars is offline
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Default Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

I'm new to the table, so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2840
UTG+1: t5475
MP1: t2780
MP2: t2920
MP3: t11140
CO: t2335
Hero: t6365
SB: t6115
BB: t10892

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t350</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t350 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t850, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets t600</font>, Hero calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1450)</font>.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2050, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t1200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in t4525</font>, Hero ??
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

As played fold, but there's a couple of snafu's before that.

1) Reraise PF, but I assume you were trapping.
2) Check behind on the turn and evaluate the river, but fold to a lot of bets
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

Fold as played ...

Please raise preflop ... your line caused me pain to read
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

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As played fold, but there's a couple of snafu's before that.

1) Reraise PF, but I assume you were trapping.
2) Check behind on the turn and evaluate the river, but fold to a lot of bets

[/ QUOTE ]

I reraise pf here 90% of the time. I called this time to disguise my hand and leave squeeze play open for someone behind. Although in retrospect, this doesn't look like a good spot for someone to squeeze.

His line confused me, how does AK (or any ace) not bet this turn?
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

fold.

you called preflop + on the flop and bet out on the turn, so he has to give you credit for an A. and he still shoves with almost no fold equity. I can't see anything hero beats.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

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As played fold, but there's a couple of snafu's before that.

1) Reraise PF, but I assume you were trapping.
2) Check behind on the turn and evaluate the river, but fold to a lot of bets

[/ QUOTE ]Same thing
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

I bet the turn bc he doesn't have an ace and I might get a call from QQ/JJ or a flush draw.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

How do u know that he doesn't have it? He seems like he has it.

I probably would play the same way AK or AQ (like it seems to be CB on the missed flop and then check the turn to induce a bluff)
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

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How do u know that he doesn't have it? He seems like he has it.

I probably would play the same way AK or AQ (like it seems to be CB on the missed flop and then check the turn to induce a bluff)

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If you did I would say that would be a good play against a known LAG on a safe board. I don't think your average unknown is checking an A here on a two flush board very often.
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Tilt $28k ($150) - KK on A high flop

yuck.

I raise PF most of the time here.

When he fires out the obvious C-bet, I raise on the flop. If he pushes there I'm done. If he checks the flop then I bet, and usually fold to a C-R.

I check behind on the turn, but as played I fold to the AI bet.
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