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Old 05-03-2007, 12:42 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Multiple chances to value bet the river

Villain is very aggressive from stealing positions. I haven't had much chance to play with him, so I can't say a lot about his postflop stealing tendencies.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

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RIVER #1

River: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...

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RIVER #2

River: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...

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RIVER #3

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>


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RIVER #4

River: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:50 PM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

Villian's line from the "vaguest" sense says i have one of a couple of things:

1) Weak Q pair
2) PP less than Q
3) Strong 9 or 5 pair
4) Nothing but a good [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Based off of those thoughts....

River #1 check behind
River #2 bet
River #3 bet
River #4 check behind
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

I'll check behind 1, 2, and 3. I don't see us either getting a better hand to fold or getting a lesser hand to call here.

#4 I can definitely see getting a crying call out of a Qx (no flush), but I'll fold to a 3-bet figuring they made the flush. This would be a rare spot for someone with a lesser hand than ours to c/r, imo.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

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PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

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RIVER #1

River: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...check and show it down. He'll either fold, which gives your bet not value or raise and make you fold whether he has it or not.

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RIVER #2

River: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...Check. I think only a hand that beats you will call most times.

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RIVER #3

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
bet.


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RIVER #4

River: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...checks

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Old 05-03-2007, 01:39 PM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

[ QUOTE ]
Villian's line from the "vaguest" sense says i have one of a couple of things:

1) Weak Q pair
2) PP less than Q
3) Strong 9 or 5 pair
4) Nothing but a good [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]


[/ QUOTE ]

You forgot his most likely hand...
#3 is a super-easy bet. I'd probably check the others.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

I would check most turn cards but I like a bet in this case. I wouldn't start value betting [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rivers against unknowns.
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

I don't like betting into a four flush, especially if Villain can get aggressive. I'd rather showdown and get a read. In hand 2, I think a majority of the hands that you were beating caught up, so I don't bet there either. I think 3 is a good river to bet.

Check behind on 1, 2, and 4. Bet 3.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Buzz-cp Buzz-cp is offline
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

1 chk
2 bet/fold
3 bet/call
4 bet/fold
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

River 1: Check (2 queens and 4flush)
River 2: Check, although he might be on king high, betting is close
River 3: Bet
River 4: b/c or check
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Multiple chances to value bet the river

I would tend to

check
check
bet
check
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