$27turbo: What to do here with J's

[slimon]

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2430)
UTG+1 (t1840)
CO (t2230)
Button (t3290)
Hero (t3330)
BB (t380)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t400</font>, UTG+1 calls t400, CO calls t400, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t1350) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets t400</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t1830 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>

I know shoving pf is bad because someone would probably call with Q's + or AQo+ so this is a good fold pf right?
No way I'm calling this right.

[Kevin8423]

I think I shove pf, there is so much dead money. Plus youre making a set here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[allaboutheu]

I shove this hand for sure. 4x raise utg to me seems like 2 overs or a slightly smaller pp ie 10s or similar. Maybe not a lot, but you also do have some fold equity.
Do not call this shove or fold.

[mortimo]

good fold..we are behind most of the time
I don`t know why they just called..looks like one of them have KK or AA

[vm1124]

I think I shove pf too. Mortimo, it only looks as if the initial raiser could have KK or AA. unless i have a read that a 4xBB riase indicates a big pair ( which sometimes it does), im shoving here.

[TwistedEcho]

I shove preflop unless you have specific reads on the other guys. 400 at 50/100 is rarely AA/KK and the two coldcallers will have worse hands than JJ 99% of the time.

[allaboutheu]

By the way, if the player making the 400 raise is a regular I play with a ton and 10 tables etc, I might be inclined to fold this because I know the worst hand he would have here is probably ak. Short of that though like I said I shove.