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Old 05-03-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

Hi.

If you're driving up a slope (30 degrees) at a static speed (50 km/h), are you considered to be accelerating, due to fighting gravity?

Just curious.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

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If you're driving up a slope (30 degrees) at a static speed (50 km/h), are you considered to be accelerating, due to fighting gravity?

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I wouldn't think so - acceleration is an increase in velocity.
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

Just face it, it doesn't accelerate. Ever. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

You're using the horsepower of your car to fight gravity.

power (watts) = force (N) * speed (m/s) [in the direction of the force you're applying]

Where, the force you must apply to go up hill = car_weight * sin(angle) [ignoring road friction and air resistence]
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

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You're using the horsepower of your car to fight gravity.

power (watts) = force (N) * speed (m/s) [in the direction of the force you're applying]

Where, the force you must apply to go up hill = car_weight * sin(angle) [ignoring road friction and air resistence]

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The thing that's confusing me is if you drop a rock off a building it'll accellerate til it hits the ground (not just drop at a steady speed), unless it somehow reaches terminal velocity... not sure how high you have to be to hit that speed, but lol, I guess it depends on your initial altitude due to air pressure being higher the lower you get.

Anyways, the point is that I view gravity (no education in this) as an "acceleratory force" (lol), so that's where I'm coming from when I ask this.

Another way of looking at it is, would you appear to accelerate if you were being observed from a stationary point in space?
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

Net acceleration equals zero if velocity is constant, according to newtonian mechanics.

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Another way of looking at it is, would you appear to accelerate if you were being observed from a stationary point in space?


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Stationary relative to what?
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

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Net acceleration equals zero if velocity is constant, according to newtonian mechanics.

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Another way of looking at it is, would you appear to accelerate if you were being observed from a stationary point in space?


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Stationary relative to what?

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The Sun.

edit to say that the relative to what was a good question. But I guess the Sun is my answer there.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

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Net acceleration equals zero if velocity is constant, according to newtonian mechanics.

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Another way of looking at it is, would you appear to accelerate if you were being observed from a stationary point in space?


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Stationary relative to what?

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The Sun.

edit to say that the relative to what was a good question. But I guess the Sun is my answer there.

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ORLY
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

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Net acceleration equals zero if velocity is constant, according to newtonian mechanics.

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Another way of looking at it is, would you appear to accelerate if you were being observed from a stationary point in space?


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Stationary relative to what?

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The Sun.

edit to say that the relative to what was a good question. But I guess the Sun is my answer there.

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ORLY

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lol piss off
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: accelleration going uphill at a steady speed (gravity)?

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at a static speed

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are you considered to be accelerating

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Nope, by definition you aren't accelerating. Your car engine may be supplying a force to "fight gravity", as you put it, but since speed is static the net force must be zero.
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