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Old 04-28-2007, 10:29 PM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

villain seems ok, 24/20 type guy, quite agressive. probably a winner in this game. i have threebet him a couple of times and he has either folded pre or on the flop.

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Button ($72)
SB ($81.32)
BB ($160.64)
UTG ($711.48)
Hero ($826.80)
CO ($329.89)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $34.

Flop: ($106) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $80</font>, UTG calls $80. im pretty much ruling out AA/KK/AQ at this point

Turn: ($266) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> usually i bet here, but i decided to check this time planning various actions on diferent rivers.
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($266) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> villain tanked for a bit and...
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $111</font> huh?, Hero calls $111.

Final Pot: $488
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:34 PM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

i have some thoughts on this hand but i'm going to let a few people call me dumb first
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

i think you're being taken to value town, looks like he's blocking with a decent (non-nut) club.
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

your dumb
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

on a serious note... I understand your thought process through the hand, the only hand that beats you with your reasoning is JxJc, but I think you see that most of the time sadly... knowing how light he floats that flop sort of helps
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

it looks like the Jc
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

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i have some thoughts on this hand but i'm going to let a few people call me dumb first

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i don't really think you played this hand well at all... starting with preflop...
this doesn't work more times than it does.
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:26 PM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

of course preflop is non standard.. i dont think im the only one that mixes up threebetting with the occasional funky hand in position. im not even sure i have ever threebetted Q9s before.
you know there are even puritans frowning on opening a pot with 45os too you know..
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

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of course preflop is non standard.. i dont think im the only one that mixes up threebetting with the occasional funky hand in position. im not even sure i have ever threebetted Q9s before.
you know there are even puritans frowning on opening a pot with 45os too you know..

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you got awhile before you pull that kind of [censored] off... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: NL400 i smell shenanigans. am i dumb or a genius

The only hands in his range that you're beating are KK no club, JJ no club, and a lot of TAG's aren't going to turn those hands into bluffs in this spot. Also his bet sizing doesn't look like a bluff (although if he's thinking on the second level he knows you know this and might try it as a bluff).
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