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Old 04-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Jackboot Jackboot is offline
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Default AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

Effective stacks: $692

Villian is unknown, only played one round so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($205)
CO ($606.40)
Button ($701)
SB ($692.65)
BB ($360)
UTG ($159)
Hero ($1118.10)
MP1 ($600)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls $15, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($54) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $42</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $138</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $674.65</font>

Board is draw heavy, but I have no read. Who likes raising his initial flop bet in this spot and who likes just flat calling?
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:57 PM
jfreels jfreels is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

looks like a combo draw to me
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:25 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

It's close, but raising is better for info and to induce draws to shove. Yea I call this shove all day, but I'm ready for variance since you guys r flipping here almost always, but theres so much $ in the pot calling here is correct. I raise this flop to protect my hand, but calling is ok vs some opponents who will always shove their draws, b/c you can fold a dangerous turn or stick it in on a clear turn, and your equity in the hand will go WAY up. As played tho, ez flop call.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:25 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

sry i wuz unclear- ez call of shove on flop*
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:07 PM
LiLApprentice LiLApprentice is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

a lead and push is also a normal line for a set
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:55 PM
onetimeuse onetimeuse is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

"you're all in" -- "i fold"
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:56 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

If your folding to his shove you shouldn't be raising the flop imo.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:08 AM
chaide chaide is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

if he is shoving a draw why is he leading flop vs two guys and out of position?
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:02 AM
jaywks jaywks is offline
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Default Re: AA - draw heavy board vs unknown

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if he is shoving a draw why is he leading flop vs two guys and out of position?

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Because the flop lead looks weak, and often may get a raise, so that he can push the flop with his combo draw. Although people do this with sets, too. But given that there are too many draws out there, I call flop shove. High variance play though, make sure your bankroll is sufficient.
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