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Old 04-21-2007, 01:29 PM
neverforgetlol neverforgetlol is offline
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Default PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

This guy has been somewhat aggro but I just sat down and he may have been just getting cards. Is this an easy fold considering I will certainly face more aggression from him on later streets? If a high card hits the turn I'll certainly have to fold, if a low card comes I may have to fold also unless it is an Ace or 2 as that may have counterfeited his low draw.

Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $1 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($168.50)
MP2 ($16.25)
CO ($22.50)
Hero ($98.50)
SB ($45.75)
BB ($37.75)
UTG ($46.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($11) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $11</font>, Hero
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

I fold preflop. Your hand is better off in an unraised pot multiway.

As played, I fold.

I don't like drawing for half the pot, and your only shot of having a high hand is turning an ace or a spade, in both cases, you are still undefined, though an ace would lock your nut low.

Edit: Now that I think about it, folding is more correct, against a more passive player I would raise here to try and get a free card and possible pot control.
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

uh.. i'd never fold preflop, that's just crazy talk.

I'm folding the flop though.
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

Why not? NFD+NLD+backup looks nice, but you really need to catch a decent flop to split the pot. Add in the possibility of getting quartered, HU I just don't like it. Then again, I am just learning the game so more explanation why this is playable against a raise (but is it worth raising?) is greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

Folding this preflop is akin to buying a samauri sword and NOT committing seppeku when you are disgraced by your wife's infidelities. This is a very big hand and should be played accordingly.

With this flop, however, I'd be happy to fold and wait. You are likely playing for half and it's not worth looking up MP1 and his big stack. With 2 spades on the flop, however, it's worth a call to see if you can steal on the turn.
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

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Why not? NFD+NLD+backup looks nice, but you really need to catch a decent flop to split the pot. Add in the possibility of getting quartered, HU I just don't like it. Then again, I am just learning the game so more explanation why this is playable against a raise (but is it worth raising?) is greatly appreciated.

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Against an unknown I never fold A2xx to a raise preflop unless it is total garbage like A298 not suited.
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

"NFD+NLD+backup looks nice" and it wins huge pots.. don't forget that part.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

problem is it's a paired board and the flush draw is backdoor.
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

fold. board is paired. this is just a losing situation. u can easily get quartered. If BB was acting before you and called then I can find peeling off another card since u have counterfeit protection, but since u dont know what bb is going to do i think this is a fold.
Btw, PF NEVER FOLD THIS TO A RAISE ESPECIALLY IN POSITION
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: PL100 NLD + counterfeit protection

yeah bb bothers me as well.. i think if it was just me and this idiot i would probably peel here.
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