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Old 04-20-2007, 01:59 AM
spino1i spino1i is offline
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Default Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

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PokerStars Game #9513079246: Omaha Pot Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/04/20 - 01:54:54 (ET)
Table 'Franzia' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Tired Loser ($616.20 in chips)
Seat 3: EvilEcstasy ($531 in chips)
Seat 4: TwoCardBrag ($609.70 in chips)
Seat 6: coisters ($417.10 in chips)
Tired Loser: posts small blind $3
EvilEcstasy: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EvilEcstasy [5h Ah 2d 7d]
TwoCardBrag: raises $15 to $21
coisters: calls $21
Tired Loser: folds
EvilEcstasy: calls $15
*** FLOP *** [7h Tc 3c]
EvilEcstasy: checks
TwoCardBrag: checks
coisters: checks
*** TURN *** [7h Tc 3c] [2h]
EvilEcstasy: bets $64
TwoCardBrag: raises $192 to $256
coisters: folds
EvilEcstasy: ???
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:57 AM
lfairban lfairban is offline
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Default Re: Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

I'd fold here.

You are probably up against a set, if so your full house with the 2 pair are no good. That drops you down to about 7 outs.
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

If he's solid he's not ever checking any strong made hand or any strong draw on that flop. Most likely hand is something like KK with hearts. I'd push.
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

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I'd fold here.

You are probably up against a set, if so your full house with the 2 pair are no good. That drops you down to about 7 outs.

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You did see that he was the pre-flop raiser and he checked on the flop in middle position right? That would be a strange line to take with a flopped set, and as I have a 2, a turned set is very unlikely..
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:01 AM
Elrazor Elrazor is offline
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Default Re: Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

i would fold this hand pre flop, even 4 handed - i cant see what you can flop that will get him to commit his stack with this hand, plus you are OOP against. if it was SB v BB and i had position i would call, but your hand is just a little too weak to go after a solid player, and by passing pre flop you avoid sticky situations like this where a good player could have a set, or a flush draw and you end up flipping for your stack
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

Preflop you can call or fold, it's not really that big of a deal either way.

Stating that a good player is ever going to have a set or a decent flush draw is pretty insane though. No decent player is ever checking a set or any kind of one pair + solid flush draw on that flop, so on the turn it's almost impossible for him to have a hand unless he's a very bad player. OP is ahead of pretty much 100% of his range and has a redraw.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Tough 3/6 hand two pair + flush draw faces raise

With 2 to a flush and a straight draw out there on the flop he is definately not checking a set. To him it looks like you might be trying to steal the pot, I'm guessing he's got an over (AA or KK) + flush draw. To him he thinks, how can that 2 help his hand, my KK + hearts must be good.
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