Did i play this set to hard?

[DaCooler]

as deep as we were i figured if he had 444 to get it in now, to big of a raise?


Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $462.16
Hero: $434.29
CO: $225.50
Button: $179.30
SB: $128.40
BB: $306.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($23, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $42</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $160</font>.

[ElPhoenix]

Typically I'm calling his flop c/r, cause he'll be betting the turn a lot, and I'll make my move there, I think you basically blow him off of weaker Q's, and ever AQ has a hard time calling here.

[Jojje_2k]

You can't play a set too hard [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[GrandMelon]

Looks good.

[DaCooler]

if he wouldve called the raise of the BB or SB i may have smooth called but his line looked like diamonds or 444, didnt think hed limp call a big queen

[Some9]

call flop shove turn is better imo

@ post above, timid KQ or a bluff are possible here. But you do have a point. Maybe 3bet is better, but I wouldnt bet so big, would I?

[DaCooler]

looking at it i more than potted it.. i think it should be 130 ish

[SonOfWestwood]

Typically, I'll call the raise in position and 3 bet OOP.

[delta k]

on a drawy board i don't think there is such a thing as playing a set too fast because those draws don't mind getting it in as a dog and the turn can seriously f us (bad obv, or paired the board which is good but makes them less inclined to keep playing).

maybe a smaller raise but i doubt 444 ever folds here, draws shove it in and bluff goes away anyway. AQ might fold but should never be c/r this flop anyway so who cares.

[bilbo-san]

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Typically I'm calling his flop c/r, cause he'll be betting the turn a lot, and I'll make my move there, I think you basically blow him off of weaker Q's, and ever AQ has a hard time calling here.

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If he has a Q a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], a 5, a 4, a K, or an A may kill your action.

If he has a flush draw, a 5, 4, or Q will kill your action and a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] will kill your hand.

If a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] falls you won't know whether it killed your action or your hand.

Lastly, people just don't c/r drawy flops and then fold to pushes. It just never happens, unless they have complete snow. If they're doing it with a draw, they'll feel priced in. If they're doing it with a made hand, they'll feel they have to call because "he might have a draw and look at my odds".

I think calling here and in situations like it has less EV than pushing, and by a pretty huge amount.