Failed squeeze preflop, should I bet the flop here?

[ronitonline]

Nothing too special about either villian niether of them seem great, low raising standards seems like, and both are capable of open limping and a lot of coldcalling preflop.

How is this?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">ronitonline (SB): $131.80</font>
BB: $118.20
UTG: $128.50
<font color="black">CO: $205.85</font>
<font color="black">BTN: $118.50</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> ronitonline is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3</font>, BTN calls $3, <font color="red">ronitonline raises to $11</font>, CO calls $8, BTN calls $8

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($33) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">ronitonline bets $22</font>

[tw0please]

I don't like the 3bet against two players of that description. On flop, I think checkraising all in would be sick. Do you think they can fold 77-JJ? Only thing I'd be worried about is Ax of spades here.

[ronitonline]

With my RR preflop I thought it would be pretty credible to lead out, and I felt I was committing less then a CR and almost the same FE.

[carnivalhobo]

c/f they arent folding pairs

[ronitonline]

I think They will fold some pairs, they could be playing for set value and thats about it, I could easily have QQ/KK/AA here....

[pdoran10]

i need to know that they have a VPIP over like 30 to CBET this flop, because it makes their range much less likely to have liked the flop.

And yeah, like carnivalhobo said. ur not going to fold out any (or much) of a semi reasonable player's range on this flop if they called you preflop.

[ronitonline]

Thier VPIPs have to be pretty high to call in this spot don't they? I can look them up if its really necessary.

[juggernaut]

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I think They will fold some pairs, they could be playing for set value and thats about it, I could easily have QQ/KK/AA here....

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based on your initial description of opponents i think this is a bit too optimistic -- they're not thinking about what you have and they probably don't know what set value means. they see their pair of fives on a six high board and think it's the nuts. i prefer a check fold here.

[ElPhoenix]

Well I mean come on man, you gave yourself the answer in your OP - "niether of them seem great, low raising standards seems like, and both are capable of open limping and a lot of coldcalling preflop."

They're not folding 77+ or even hands like A6, and def not spades. Pretty spewy 3b and flop bet overall if you ask me, based upon your descriptions of the players.

[Fonkey123]

In this hand they're going to be smooth calling SOOOOO OFTEN the turn is going to be super awkward. This is a spewy 3bet.

If you were shallower I'd raise to 18-20 preflop, pot flop, and call push.