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Old 04-18-2007, 06:21 AM
HAL PHIPA HAL PHIPA is offline
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Default NL200 River Bluff raise

I have been at table about 4 rounds with villian. I have seen him minraise and limp constantly but, I havent seen him do anything strange postflop. He doesnt seem very aggro.

I on the other hand have been lagging it up preflop but playing fairly straight foward post flop. No one has been folding to my cbets of late so Villian will have seen me give up on a fair number of hands when other people have shown aggression.

Villian has $105 left after his river bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($176)
UTG ($29)
UTG+1 ($175.75)
MP1 ($225)
MP2 ($241)
CO ($161.10)
Hero ($189.70)
SB ($116.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $11.

Flop: ($33) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $27</font>, UTG+1 calls $27.

Turn: ($87) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($87) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $147.7

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Old 04-18-2007, 06:29 AM
BlueBear BlueBear is offline
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

If villain is constantly minraising and limp constantly, (s)he surely can't be a strong competent thinking player. The river bet looks like a weak blocking bet but what are the chances villain will fold a jack here (AJ, KJ, etc...)? I think you're giving way too much credit to your opponent here (for a very expensive price) and your hand has good showdown value anyway. Just call the river and save these speculative bluffs against the nits instead.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

Extreme FPS.

I don't like the 3bet with 40 hands history only. You aren't even giving his stats over those 40 hands.

And I'd rather like betting turn if you think he's floating OOP with AK or has AJ or smth. You have outs on the turn.

River is extreme spew IMHO as many hands will curiosity-call while you actually have showdown value against ace-high hands that failed to improve.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

so horrible... I dont like raising in this spot unless I feel that he was drawing here which doesnt look like he was at all. Even though it looks like a value bet, if your going to raise, a raise to ~70 works better then the "looks like a bluff" allin
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:56 AM
Thrahl Thrahl is offline
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

I'm definitely firing a second barrel here. The river raise is a spew.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

just call preflop.

this villain seems like a calling station. dont bluff a calling station. u are spewing preflop, on the flop and on the river. against these guys just wait until u have a hand and value bet, value bet, value bet.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:20 PM
DougieG DougieG is offline
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

I don't indiscriminently hate any 98s reraise pf, especially in position, but this one seems bad. We're not deep enough (IMO) to extract enough on our gin flops.

You say villian has seen you give up to any resistance on the flop recently, so why aren't you firing on this turn? It seems like that would be standard fare even without having your hand improve. On this turn we pick up flush outs and I'm looking for a way to get it in on the river if we hit the backdoor flush. If he ends up with a boat...tough luck, gg me.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

I don't like it at all really. I think that preflop is out of line and that the river should just be a call. You get shown a full house here a lot IMO.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

bad preflop, bad postflop. Stop outplaying 0th level thinkers.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: NL200 River Bluff raise

if it worked then u has the best hand
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