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Old 04-09-2007, 05:15 PM
acrocentric acrocentric is offline
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Default 1-2 NL deepstacked. . . tough river decision w/ mid set

This is a live 1-2 NL game with a 300 capped buyin.

The villain is new to the table but is from a broken game, so his stack is roughly 500, and I cover.

Villain 2 is a serious calling station, who will put his chips in with almost any piece.

Villain 1 raises to 12 in EP, I call in MP with 88, Villain 2 calls, 1 or 2 other callers.

Flop: Jx 10x 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain 1 bets out 20, I raise to 60, Villain 2 calls (and now has roughly 70 left) and Villain 1 calls.

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain 1 checks, I bet out 75 dollars, villain 2 folds, villain 1 calls.

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain 1 goes all-in for just over 300 dollars.

Hero?!?!
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:34 PM
dd323 dd323 is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL deepstacked. . . tough river decision w/ mid set

As played I would puke, and probably fold the river. But in real life I would never have made a $75 bet into a ~$200 pot on a super drawy board. I would have made it $175, and then called a push if he were to push the turn.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:23 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL deepstacked. . . tough river decision w/ mid set

Make it $100 on the flop then at least 3/4 pot on turn.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL deepstacked. . . tough river decision w/ mid set

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I would never have made a $75 bet into a ~$200 pot on a super drawy board. I would have made it $175, and then called a push if he were to push the turn.

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yep
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:02 PM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL deepstacked. . . tough river decision w/ mid set

Bet the turn much harder, and possibly the flop too. As played you can easily fold the river, your opponent has a made hand, most likely KcJc etc.
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:30 AM
acrocentric acrocentric is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL deepstacked. . . tough river decision w/ mid set

The turn bet was where I made a serious mistake; I agree that a bet of 150-200 would have been the right more there.

I think that my reasoning during the hand was that I wanted Villain 2 to commit the rest of his chips to the pot, and I had not seen Villain 1 make any huge move up to this point, and would not expect a normal 1-2 NL player to fire a 300 dollar all-in bet on the river. It had felt like I was in total control of the hand, where I'd have been able to bet 75 on the turn, get called in 2 spots, then value-bet the river.

Well, I screwed up in both regards- V1 folded, then V2 called and made a huge play on the river.

I still contemplated the river decision and was probably 50-50 against calling or folding, but the runner-runner clubs probably gave him too many hands that would have beat me.

He flipped over A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], I steamed for a few but ended up making a bit of that back; he turned out to be much too LAG for the 1-2 game we were in.

How many of you make that call on the river given the way the hand was played?
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