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Old 04-04-2007, 11:55 PM
nextgenneo nextgenneo is offline
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Default JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

The Vil in this hand is ChangPogo on FTP who is running at 21/15/3.5. I have sat down recently and haven't done much out of line.

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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $265.40
<u>BB: $433.40</u>
<u>Hero (UTG): $416.40</u>
CO: $394
BTN: $495.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6, 5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $14, SB calls $12, <font color="red">BB raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $56, 2 folds

<font color="blue">The BTN in this hand was a donk, running at like 50/7 and the SB was a pretty solid reg. I figured a call is best as I'd prob do that with all my hands (AK / AA included)</font>

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($170, 2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $110</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $346.40</font> ($240 more for the vil)

<font color="blue">Vil was running at flop aggro of ~5 and I think he c-bets all his hands here. With that many callers pre he could easily be 3-betting light as well so standard shove? I don't like calling behind because it just gives him free cards to catch up with AK which I wont get any more action from if I call. I don't think I ever fold here</font>
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:03 AM
The Man The Man is offline
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Default Re: JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

Im not a fan, because villian never calls with a worse hand. I also think villian might think twice about cbetting hard with AK on this board after raising pre so much. I like a call, I even like a fold preflop. I also can like a shove preflop.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

I think if you're calling preflop then you definitely gotta get it in here.

I might just fold preflop though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

you are totally crushed by his calling range. Doing this with AK is better than with JJ. If he squeezes a lot and would cbet 100% this is profitable though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

i moghtve gone all in preflop if you thought is raise was light. im ok with this though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

lol, thigh board.

looks fine though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: JJ on Thigh board stacking off time (standard?)

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you are totally crushed by his calling range. Doing this with AK is better than with JJ. If he squeezes a lot and would cbet 100% this is profitable though.

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$240 is close enouogh to 25% of the pot that he loses that much by checking down vs AK.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:07 AM
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you are totally crushed by his calling range. Doing this with AK is better than with JJ. If he squeezes a lot and would cbet 100% this is profitable though.

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$240 is close enouogh to 25% of the pot that he loses that much by checking down vs AK.

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I am not advocating a call. It's a clear push/fold. Vs a calling range of TT,QQ+ you have 10% equity.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:18 AM
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Well played.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:13 AM
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I hate these spots. They fold or I get stacked.
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