Pair of Aces and Nut Flush Draw - No Low. Call or Fold?

Chicos75 · #1 04-03-2007, 09:03 PM

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t535
UTG+1: t1290
MP1: t1945
MP2: t2823
CO: t1515
Button: t2817
Hero: t1360
BB: t3120

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t30 (pot was t45), 3 folds, CO calls t30 (pot was t75), Button folds, Hero calls t15 (pot was t105), BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t120, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets t120, Hero calls t120 (pot was t240), BB folds, UTG calls t120 (pot was t360).

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t480, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG is all-in t385, CO raises all-in t1365, Hero?????

Fiasco · #2 04-03-2007, 11:46 PM

First off Id like to say that Id like to see you pot with this hand preflop.

I also think you probably need to fold the flop, as played.

As far as the turn goes, this is a pretty clear fold. You are getting less than 2 to 1 to call. Youre barely getting the right price against two pair, but in actuality there is a good chance that youre up against a straight or at least a set.

wackjob · #3 04-04-2007, 02:49 AM

OMG, the crisis here was your preflop play. the turn is a clear fold as played.

Mercyful · #4 04-04-2007, 10:30 AM

Why didn't you raise before the flop????

bbartlog · #5 04-04-2007, 10:36 AM

If you had raised and gotten HU preflop, you would be ahead 70% of the time (maybe more) on this flop. Since you didn't, you will be behind 60-70% of the time. (Numbers are rough estimates, but should give you an idea of why you want to play AAxx 2-handed and not 4-handed).
The only similar case where I might limp this is with a somewhat weaker AALx hand (something like AA47r) in a situation where I knew I all three opponents would call any preflop raise. But here your hand is so strong you should bet for value even if you don't expect anyone to fold (though getting people to fold is still to your advantage).
Your line on the flop is also bad. If you were later to act (even second instead of first) I think a steal attempt would be good, but I think as things stand it's check/fold. Check/call is awful, your pot equity is 15-25% depending on opponent holdings.

Ribbo · #6 04-05-2007, 09:00 AM

Learn to raise preflop. It's pointless answering anything more about how you played until you learn this.