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Old 04-04-2007, 03:14 PM
DaCooler DaCooler is offline
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Default Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position


villian runs 19/7/3 over 300 hands, a litty nitty maybe? I put him on a draw on the flop and turn but when he fired river i figured i was beat, how can i play this hand better



Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $668.20
UTG+1: $111.40
CO: $176
Hero: $751.15
SB: $109.58
BB: $368.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $40</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($97, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $100</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($297, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $220.55</font>.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:17 PM
BGnight BGnight is offline
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

Dump it on turn. He's afraid of the flush draws. If he's making a play oh well nh by him. I think your crushed. Flop call is o.k. He's pretty nitty though, so even a flop fold is ok here imo.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:18 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

Lol, against this kind of player, I fold the turn. He bets the pot oop after to have checkraise the flop. I think he have 666/JJJ here a lot, KJ is also a possibility.

The only hand you beat is QTs, but if he have the bollocks to make a PSB oop with his draw, fine, the pot is for him.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:19 PM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

I think you can just fold it on the flop...too nitty?

Definite fold on the turn.
Fold river.

I think it's pretty spewy calling turn or river here,
w/o some sort of read against a player with these stats,
especially this deep.

You have to believe his preflop passiveness carries over post-flop at least somewhat.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:20 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

decision needs to be made on turn
if you're calling the turn you need to call the river
if you're going to fold, fold the turn.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

[ QUOTE ]
decision needs to be made on turn
if you're calling the turn you need to call the river
if you're going to fold, fold the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was thinking that, if i put him on a draw i need to put it in here... he told me he h ad combo draw but not sure i believe his nitty ass
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

Go with your read nothing has changed from the turn, you were either ahead there or you were behind. You called an overbet under the assumption you were ahead right? Then I think you should call the river push.

Without a read I'd have folded the turn.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:01 PM
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Yes fold on the turn.
I can even find a fold on the flop, but I'm a nit.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:00 PM
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Isnt turn a push/fold situation since there is a drawy board + no bluffing/KQ money to be earnd by taking it to the next street?
Seen him checkraise flop before? this would help alot. But i do think you can fold the flop, he wont know you folded AK and exploit it anyway. If you later find out he does this alot/with draws you can begin to call him with theese kinds of hands. By the turn you know by _atleast_ 75% that its is a nit protecting a set maybe 2p so dumpelidump dump.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:23 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Flop TPTK , gettting played at HARD in position

Blah, I probably just ditch the turn. 100bb deep I may shove turn or flop, or fold turn depending on reads etc.
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