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Old 04-03-2007, 02:22 AM
jj12 jj12 is offline
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Default fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great odds.

Opponent is 22/5/1.2 and he hasn't been active at all. I don't have a good read on his postflop play.


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<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 5 Players)
Hero raises to $14, Hulk76 folds, a warm place folds, urbandb888 folds, NIB333 calls $10

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($30, 2 Players)
NIB333 checks, Hero bets $21, NIB333 calls $21

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($72, 2 Players)
NIB333 checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">River:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($72, 2 Players)
NIB333 checks, Hero bets $50, NIB333 raises to $100, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $50 returned to NIB333

Pot Size: $72 ($0 Rake)

I am getting amazing odds but his line doesn't make any sense and he shouldn't have air. The only thing I beat is a frustration bluff from ace high. Good fold? It looks like he wants a call.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great o

yes but I'd bet turn
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great o

yeah I was considering betting turn but felt that this is the kind of opponent that would pay off river with a very marginal hand if I check.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great odds.

i hate checking the turn.



but i dont see why hed go for a check raise on the river since he cant think your gonna bet out there. id bet for value, and be very confused by the check min raise.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:43 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great odds.

he's got 56, I'd pay to see it though b/c I'm a station
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great o

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i hate checking the turn.



but i dont see why hed go for a check raise on the river since he cant think your gonna bet out there. id bet for value, and be very confused by the check min raise.

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yeah whenever I take this line of reasoning I always get owned by some donk who checks the nuts twice. However, here the odds are extremely attractive that calling might be profitable. I am totally unsure. It's such a bizzare situation.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great o

Good turn check if hes a loose peeler and a serial bluffer, otherwise just bet it.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:28 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great odds.

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he's got 56, I'd pay to see it though b/c I'm a station

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seconded

honestly, i would be too curious not to look him up here, also i hate folding to minraises
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great o

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he's got 56, I'd pay to see it though b/c I'm a station

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seconded

honestly, i would be too curious not to look him up here, also i hate folding to minraises

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lol so you guys think its -ev, but since it's only a minraise lets pay it off.
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: fold to a totally unexpected river min check raise getting great o

Never ever fold TPGK in minbet hold them!
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