$5 tourney K10 tough spots

chrismystero · #1 04-04-2007, 04:10 AM

no reads on players. i will post this hands in steps from the flop and on:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t990)
CO (t1555)
Button (t4020)
Hero (t1285)
BB (t2620)
UTG (t1580)
MP1 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 3 folds, Button calls t50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero ??

lemming · #2 04-04-2007, 04:20 AM

raise/fold PF imo.
As played, bet 150-180.

TheFoxNL · #3 04-04-2007, 04:47 AM

hmm i wouldnt fold PF youre getting 6-1 to complete
you can at least have a look

just check/fold
a T would shurely make your hand
a K prob aswell seeign AQ would have raised PF
but this is a draw heavy board straight/flush draw
so except a T hitting turn you got nothing that could give you this pot

PF complete
flop check/fold
turn Check/fold Turn=T raise

chrismystero · #4 04-04-2007, 04:48 AM

alright, i wanted a few more responses, but im a bit anxious to get it all posted, so anyways against what a lot of ppl might do, i simply checked flop.

turn:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t990)
CO (t1555)
Button (t4020)
Hero (t1285)
BB (t2620)
UTG (t1580)
MP1 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 3 folds, Button calls t50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t200) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero ??

lemming · #5 04-04-2007, 04:51 AM

Hero bets 150?

@TheFoxNL: What about Q9? I see lots of weak players limping with that kinda hand... so I wouldn't feel very secure with my K tbh...

TheFoxNL · #6 04-04-2007, 05:24 AM

youre right Q9 is also dangerous
thats why i said check fold unless turn comes a T
you got a possible straight on the board now and if not at least a monsterdraw

i dont know this is a complicated situation
somehow checking and giving them another free card (if they check behind youre olmost shure they got a draw) is -EV

so maybe just put out a small bet like 100 and see what happens

Fiksdal · #7 04-04-2007, 05:28 AM

Flop and preflop are fine, now lead the turn for t150.

Cablelessray · #8 04-04-2007, 05:44 AM

pot it and make him call too much for his monster draw

chrismystero · #9 04-04-2007, 06:26 AM

anyways, i made it 140, but then got surprised. what now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t990)
CO (t1555)
Button (t4020)
Hero (t1285)
BB (t2620)
UTG (t1580)
MP1 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 3 folds, Button calls t50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t200) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t140, BB raises to t550, UTG folds, Button folds, Hero ??

Blackluck · #10 04-04-2007, 07:12 AM

(I'm a new poster and player, but trying to improve. I play $5 SnGs almost exclusively.)

This is a tough spot. At this level top pair is way over valued by many players. He could well have Kx here, or top pair/flush draw. However, any rational player wouldn't reraise with K-rag with no other way of improving his hand. He may have AK, but not likely as he probably would have raised PF. The other piece is that many bad players at this level may think the flop-check turn-bet means you're "bluffing"

If the player is solid, the size of the reraise looks like he hit a straight and wants to shut down the flush and/or get value for playing against two pair (at least if I were villain that's what I'd do.) If you have no reads on villain, I think you need to fold here. You still have plenty of chips relative to the blinds.