Flop decision KJs

Marquis · #1 03-30-2007, 02:41 PM

Aggressive .5/1 6-max game at FT. Guy to my right is a bit hyper preflop and he opens in the hijack. I 3-bet with KJs to isolate. Solid button caps it. We call and go 3 to the flop.

Flop is Q74r with one of my suit (not the queen). Check, check, bet, call and I?

MrWookie · #2 03-30-2007, 02:48 PM

I think you can just let it go with two villains. Even if button doesn't have you wrecked w/ AA, KK, or QQ, you could still be against, say, AJ and AK, JJ and AK, JJ and KQ, or all sorts of nasty combos that destroy you.

Marquis · #3 03-30-2007, 02:53 PM

No odds to try the back door?

DrModern · #4 03-30-2007, 03:00 PM

Fold.

MrWookie · #5 03-30-2007, 03:07 PM

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No odds to try the back door?

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What odds do you need? What odds do you have?

Marquis · #6 03-30-2007, 03:09 PM

I asked you first. 15-1.

MrWookie · #7 03-30-2007, 03:12 PM

Also we need to bear in mind that our backdoor straight needs to be discounted somewhat. Some of our outs are almost certainly in our opponents hands.

Marquis · #8 03-30-2007, 03:17 PM

I agree. And sometimes when he has AK we get a free look at the river.

Dr. Matt · #9 03-30-2007, 05:39 PM

I don't see how this could not be a call... hopefully button doesn't raise behind you.

ok, nevermind I didn't think about this long enough... I just posted.

FatedEquity · #10 03-30-2007, 06:34 PM

Isn't this identical to the hand David Sklansky posted in the high stakes forum some time ago?

Edit: Yes it is, more or less. FWIW, David later stated that this is a close call against most players. Of course, you have provided additional reads in your example which may change things somewhat.