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#1
03-21-2007, 01:02 PM
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Folding KK vs HEK
I haven't been playing much lately and I have not played much w/ HEK at all. He probably views me as good/decent but unknown. I figured my hand is pretty transparent after the turn so a big overbet on the river is most likely a Jack since being an unknown to him, he has no real idea if I will fold AA or KK in this spot. I know from a previous hand though at another table that he is capable of making moves on boards like this so it's possible I'm good here.
Good fold or no? Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game 5 Players LegoPoker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> SB: $632.9 BB: $259.6 Hero (UTG): $705.70 CO: $449.80 BTN: $63.80 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 5 players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($34, 2 players) <font color="red">Hero bets $26</font>, CO calls $26 <font color="black">Turn:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($86, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80 <font color="black">River:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($246, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all in for $329.80</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $329.80 returned to CO 
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#3
03-21-2007, 01:31 PM
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Re: Folding KK vs HEK
I'll never fold this vs. HEK for ~100bb after showing weakness.
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#6
03-21-2007, 01:39 PM
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Re: Folding KK vs HEK
fwiw, i don't think he knows that i know who he is.
also if my hand wasn't so well repped in combo w/ the fact that he has no idea if i would fold it or not...then i would instacall the river push. im still not sure though because i think sometimes he is getting spewey and making a move anyway.
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#7
03-21-2007, 01:53 PM
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Re: Folding KK vs HEK
[ QUOTE ]
fwiw, i don't think he knows that i know who he is. also if my hand wasn't so well repped in combo w/ the fact that he has no idea if i would fold it or not...then i would instacall the river push. im still not sure though because i think sometimes he is getting spewey and making a move anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't matter if he knows who you are. If he thinks you are capable of folding here, he can make this move. Your hand isn't 'exactly' an overpair. You could easily have 88/99 etc here, and HEK would push expecting a fold. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] If he has a jack, that's bad luck, you played this good until you folded.
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#9
03-21-2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: Folding KK vs HEK
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[ QUOTE ] you played this good until you folded. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Are you really just trying to push me off of 77-88 here? I think 99-AA have relatively the same value as I expect to be getting 3 bet pre by TT-AA usually. I think I misplayed the hand on the turn possibly moreso than on the river. I definately misplayed it though regardless.
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#10
03-21-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: Folding KK vs HEK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] you played this good until you folded. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Are you really just trying to push me off of 77-88 here? I think 99-AA have relatively the same value as I expect to be getting 3 bet pre by TT-AA usually. I think I misplayed the hand on the turn possibly moreso than on the river. I definately misplayed it though regardless. [/ QUOTE ] Apparently he's pushing you off KK here. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Honestly, I love your line in this spot (to induce a bluff), but you have to call river.
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