Nl 100 77 I make a move

NL__Fool · #1 03-18-2007, 10:22 AM

Villain is an 18/8 regular

He checked the flop so I'm putting him on a A with a weak kicker looking for pot control, or an underpair anything between 66-KK

I made a move on the turn hoping to take the pot down right there but he called my bet. The river brought a perfect scare card for me. The 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] completes the flush as well as a straight along with the paired board. SO I push.

River push ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($115.70)
MP1 ($81.15)
MP2 ($60.85)
MP3 ($78.10)
CO ($60.45)
Button ($96.40)
SB ($199.65)
BB ($98)
UTG ($58.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $5, MP2 calls $5.

Flop: ($19.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($19.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button bets $12, Hero raises to $36, MP2 folds, Button calls $24.

River: ($91.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $73.7 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: $165.20

bottomset · #2 03-18-2007, 10:29 AM

its only a $54 river bet effectively

not enough imo

what's your name on stars?

BT2 · #3 03-18-2007, 10:37 AM

this is silly

NL__Fool · #4 03-18-2007, 10:50 AM

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Why?

He'll have a hard time calling with a hand lik JJ-KK and a hard time calling with An A

He's also never on a flush draw here. If he's aggresive enough to raise suited connectors preflop he will be betting this flop with his draw

BT2 · #5 03-18-2007, 11:40 AM

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this is silly

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Why?

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bluffing is unessesary. put your chips in when you are ahead and not as much when you are behind. then it is an eazy game.

bottomset · #6 03-18-2007, 11:41 AM

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Why?

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bluffing is unessesary. put your chips in when you are ahead and not as much when you are behind. then it is an eazy game.

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bt you play a supertight and boring style

Robin Donks · #7 03-18-2007, 11:51 AM

Your line doesn't look like a set (set would probably lead flop, CRAI turn or bet turn strong), flush or straight draw never CR turn. It looks just like what it is - a bluff. I think vilain with a hand reading ability will look you up often enough.

NL__Fool · #8 03-18-2007, 12:16 PM

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Your line doesn't look like a set (set would probably lead flop, CRAI turn or bet turn strong), flush or straight draw never CR turn. It looks just like what it is - a bluff. I think vilain with a hand reading ability will look you up often enough.

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Your line doesn't look like a set (set would probably lead flop, CRAI turn or bet turn strong

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It seems like everyone at full ring who flops a set is leading directly into a PFR, it is to transparent.

I mix up my play constantly and it's 30/30/30 as to how I play a set. Sometimes against thinking players you need to play a set like you dont have a set so they will call you.

Sometimes I lead directly into the PFR, Sometimes I cr the flop sometimes I smoothcall the flop and lead the turn.

Who is going to crai on the turn with a set against a pfr who checked the flop in position? Thats a sure way to win no more money

The PFR is never calling that bet, the CRAI looks more like a bluff to me then the move I made.

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flush or straight draw never CR turn.

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You never semi bluff? Can you tell me why?

It also helps when you have nitty stats. I run at 14/9 not 20/10 and he knows I run at 13/9

With nitty stats like mine you can make a lot of moves against the right players

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If you never bluff you are losing money

NL__Fool · #9 03-18-2007, 12:19 PM

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its only a $54 river bet effectively

not enough imo

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Just curious are you going to risk your entire 100 BB stack on a TPWK or underpair to an A high board against a 14/9 when you are Check raised on turn and forced to call another $56 bet on river. Most players will give up firing on the river after he called that turn CR. I didn't I fired again

Oxy · #10 03-18-2007, 12:20 PM

If you're so sure about your play, why are you asking? You seem to just want to defend everything you did. This is a pretty bad move because your line makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't follow any logical argument with any hands that beat villain. I won't write it all out but just read what the others wrote.

That's not to say this is impossible it'll work, there are just soooo many better spots or better ways to set up 3barrel bluffs.