My Least Favorite Spot 10-25

[stealthcow]

Vill(BTN) is like a 23/19. Solid player i'm assuming. No real history. MP is a fish, so i expect BTN to call here sometimes with suited 1 gappers given all of our stacks and how bad MP is.

$25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($2355)
Button ($6500.15)
Hero ($5350)
BB ($4526)
UTG ($930)
MP ($7947.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $25, MP calls $25, CO calls $25, Button calls $25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $235</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $210, CO folds, Button calls $210.

Flop: ($780) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $500</font>, MP folds, Button calls $500.</font>

Turn: ($1780) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>

I hate going into check call check call mode. It gives all the initiative to the villain. And the only way to play a check call check call right is if you know the villain does too much bluffing or not enough. if he's an unknown solid player, i hate doing this 200bb deep.

Also- how do you guys play AA or KK in this spot? If you decide to cbet AQ how do you play it on the turn here?

stealthcow-

[capone0]

Whats so bad at this spot? You really worried about a set?

[catcher193]

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Whats so bad at this spot? You really worried about a set?

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yes??

bet 1200 call a shove

[ArturiusX]

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bet 1200 call a shove

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lol wtf

[stealthcow]

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bet 1200 call a shove

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I need to think about this more, but against laggier villians, this seems like the best line. what do you do if villain just calls turn? (assume river T or river 8)

also whats your line against nittier opponents?

stealthcow-

[jfish]

bet/calling makes sense, but villain has to be capable of bluff shoving (an excellent bluff shove spot btw) and do it fairly often. another argument for b/cing is that you have to call here some of the time and this is one of the top hands in your range here.

i think id pretty much take whatever line that was to get the most value from this specific villain. since he is solid im assuming he bets/bluffs more than he calls down light.

c/c, c/c seems best. b/c would require different reads.

what kind of weaktight nit limps behind with 44 or 66 on button?

[jfish]

you seriously cant put him on 44 or 66?

[shootaa]

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what kind of weaktight nit limps behind on button?

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i think he could have a set... but if he's tricky at all i bet/call