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03-09-2007, 12:42 AM
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QQ preflop
Villain is 20/6/2 over 200 hands. Sorry converter is down.
Cryptologic: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) Seat 3 is the button. Seat 1: utg+1 ($233 in chips) Seat 2: Hero ($197.25 in chips) Seat 3: Button($199.12 in chips) Seat 4: Villain ($192 in chips) Seat 5: BB ($269.50 in chips) Seat 6: UTG ($220.25 in chips) Villain: posts small blind $1 BB: posts big blind $2 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Hero [Qs Qc] utg: folds utg+1: folds Hero: raises to $8 button: folds Villain: raises to $22 BB: folds Hero: raises to $60 Villain: raises to $192 and is all-in Hero? How many of you 4bet push? If you fold, what kind of stats does villain have to have before you call if there is no history between you? 
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#2
03-09-2007, 12:45 AM
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Re: Black B!tches preflop
Fold to his push.
Don't 4bet a 6% raiser when he 3bets you OOP in the first place. Call and play the hand with position (and caution).
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#3
03-09-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: Black B!tches preflop
I don't like 4-betting this in position against a nit. Actually i hate it.
w/o any reads except datamining i need him to have a pfr of 25+ to consider calling. (Yeah, i'm a nit!)
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#4
03-09-2007, 12:48 AM
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Re: Black B!tches preflop
I have a PFR of over 20 routinely and I don't think I'd ever 5bet push queens against a reasonable player, FWIW. The 4th raise means AA/KK/AK only IMO.
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#5
03-09-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: Black B!tches preflop
[ QUOTE ]
Fold to his push. Don't 4bet a 6% raiser when he 3bets you OOP in the first place. Call and play the hand with position (and caution). [/ QUOTE ] Yeah with him 3-betting OOP he is signalling a lot of strength here. I agree with fishsticks that you would have been better off calling his 3-bet and taking the hand from the flop onwards, unfortunately you have now passed the advantage back to him, so its a fold as played..IMO
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#6
03-09-2007, 03:14 AM
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Re: Black B!tches preflop
4 betting here is just bad... You let him fold JJ and AQ and probably AK, which are the only hands in his range that you're ahead of, and you have a really hard time not stacking off if he pushes.
Just call the 3bet and keep the pot as small as possible unless you spike a Q.
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