Stud 8 Concealed AA heavy action

[Doofus]

Read Zee's book ages ago I think stuff is only just beginning to click.

V1 was laggy in all games, no reads on V2.
Raised pre because there were only a couple of lows and one of the high or low cards could get frisky and reraise letting me cap and play heads up or short. Standard?

Is the cap ok on 3rd or does it bloat the pot too much? I didn't want the T to come along cheap.

Was Villain 1's 3rd call bad?

Jamming all the way standard? I went for the overcall on the river because V1 had a lock low/poss straight and didn't want to open the betting up without the boat and get 3 bet and capped if V2 had improved. Standard?

PokerStars Game HORSE (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit, $2/$4) 25c ante 8-max

Seat 1$52 in chips)
Seat 2: ($81.50 in chips)
Seat 3: ($62.50 in chips)
Seat 4: ($337.25 in chips)
Seat 5: ($95 in chips)
Seat 6: ($85 in chips)
Seat 7: ($92.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($75.75 in chips)

*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to seat1 [T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Dealt to seat 2 [T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Dealt to seat 3 [J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Dealt to seat 4[8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Dealt to seat 5[Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Dealt to seat 6[T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Dealt to seat 7 [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Dealt to Hero [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Villain 1: brings in for $1
Hero: raises $1 to $2
Seat 1: calls $2
3 folds
Seat 5: raises $2 to $4
1 fold
Villain 1: raises $2 to $6
Hero caps
Seat 1 folds
Villain 2: calls $4
Villain 1: calls $2

*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to V2 [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Dealt to V1 [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Dealt to Hero[A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
V2: checks
V1: checks
Hero: bets $2
V2: calls $2
V1: calls $2

*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to V2 [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Dealt to V1 [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Dealt to Hero [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
V2: bets $4
V1: calls $4
Hero: raises $4 to $8
V2: raises $4 to $12
V1: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
Hero: calls $8
V2: calls $4

*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to V2 [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Dealt to V1 [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Dealt to Hero [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
V2: checks
V1: bets $4
Hero: raises $4 to $8
V2: calls $8
V1: raises $4 to $12
Hero: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
V2: calls $8
V1: calls $4

*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Hero [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
V2: checks
V1: bets $4
Hero: calls $4
V2: calls $4

*** SHOW DOWN ***
V1: shows [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] (HI: a pair of Sixes; LO: 8,6,5,4,2)
Hero: shows [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (HI: three of a kind, Aces)
V2: mucks hand
Hero collected $69.50 from pot
V1 collected $69.50 from pot

[Andy B]

There's a handy converter here:

http://www.andyblackwood.com/converter.html

It will make your hand easier to read, and you'll get more and better responses.

[Doofus]

TY It seemed that a lot of converters were down today.
And the hand?

[Andy B]

Convert it and I'll have a closer look. I generally don't jam third with AA9.

[Doofus]

HORSE - 7 Card Stud High-Low ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 6: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___raises___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises

4th Street - (14.00 SB)

Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (8.50 BB)

Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___raises
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___calls

6th Street - (20.50 BB)

Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___raises

River - (32.50 BB)

Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (35.50 BB)

[Andy B]

Oh, that's so much better. Thank you.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Raising coming in on third street is good. When the bring-in three-bets, it means either a monster or brain damage. You might cap it if you think that this will force the Queen out, but it is a rare player that will raise and then fold in the same round. I don't like playing huge pots with high-only hands, so I'd probably just call the three-bet.

Fourth came down pretty well. There are lots of diamonds out, so I wouldn't sweat them too much. The only possible low has hit a stinky Jack. Definitely bet this. I'd definitely jam fifth. It's very unlikely that Q7Q is full. I would also jam sixth. It's possible that the bring-in has a straight, but he'd be jamming here with any low. And would he three-bet third with 754? The 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is still showing, so he can't have started with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I think you have to jam this one.

I think the river is pretty close between jamming and just calling. You're probably best, but either of your opponents might have you beaten. Q7Q may have figured out by now that trip Queens are no good, and might decide not to throw good money after bad. More likely he'll call down, though. On balance, I think I like jamming a little better, but I think going for the over-call is OK.

[SweetLuckyMe]

I like it all the way. Nice.

[Doofus]

V1 was VERRRY laggy and crappy razz hands were definately in his range.

[Beavis68]

I dont like jamming with one way hands where you half to lose at least half the pot. you are only gaining 1/2 bet for each bet you risk.

Doesnt Zee have a rule about that?

[RubbishCards]

Yeah, Zee says you need to be a 2:1 favourite to win your half of the pot to justify betting/raising, assuming you have no shot at the other half and there is no chance you are making anyone fold.