(36s) early game insecurities

braminc · #1 02-25-2007, 09:40 PM

heres a few situations early in sngs where i generally fold, and im worried that im being too tight and losing some value. what do you guys think?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1575
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1470
CO: t1440
Hero: t1455
SB: t1440
BB: t1620

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, MP3 raises to t90, CO folds, Hero folds, SB calls t75 (pot was t135), BB calls t60 (pot was t210).

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t270, 3 players)
SB checks, BB is all-in t1530, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t1530 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t270

hand #2:
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1845
Hero: t2385
MP1: t3520
CO: t1530
Button: t1035
SB: t1360
BB: t1825

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50 (pot was t75), Hero calls t50 (pot was t125), MP1 calls t50 (pot was t175), 2 folds, SB calls t25 (pot was t225), BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t250, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t250, Hero folds, 3 folds.
Uncalled bets: t250 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t250

once again im afraid im playing too weak, but i dont wanna get involved in ANYTHING sketch this early on.

hand #3:another preflop fold

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t680
UTG+1: t1345
MP1: t1260
MP2: t3345
Hero: t1435
Button: t1410
SB: t2250
BB: t1775

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls t50 (pot was t75), MP2 calls t50 (pot was t125), Hero folds, Button folds, SB calls t25 (pot was t175), BB checks.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t200, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t50, MP1 calls t50 (pot was t250), 2 folds.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t300, 2 players)
BB bets t50, MP1 raises to t100, BB calls t50 (pot was t450).

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t500, 2 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets t250, BB calls t250 (pot was t750).

Results:
Final pot: t1000

hand #4:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t40/t80
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t980
Hero: t1375
MP1: t1560
MP2: t1445
CO: t2330
Button: t1885
SB: t2835
BB: t1090

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises all-in t980, Hero folds, 6 folds.
Uncalled bets: t900 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t200

villain here is unknown, but i already assume hes pretty weak to have allowed himself to lose 500 chips in the first few orbits....

Little John · #2 02-25-2007, 09:46 PM

Hand 1 & 2 - fold.

Hand 3 - i would limp behind.

Hand 4 - push. You crush his range.

AMT · #3 02-25-2007, 09:51 PM

first 3 look ok, 4th hand id reshove

J-P · #4 02-25-2007, 10:01 PM

1)I think folding is a bit weak on the button here. I'd call and play the flop with position.

2)I'd fold but I suppose a call isn't bad. Definite call when your in late position and a lot of limpers to you.

3)Fold. AJ isn't a hand you want to get involved with multiway.

4)Easy push.

braminc · #5 02-25-2007, 10:02 PM

theres no pushing to be done on hand 4, hes already allin, but youre all sayin easy call?

J-P · #6 02-25-2007, 10:04 PM

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theres no pushing to be done on hand 4, hes already allin, but youre all sayin easy call?

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Ya, thats what I meant. You cover him by like 400 so may as well push it all in.

braminc · #7 02-25-2007, 10:06 PM

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theres no pushing to be done on hand 4, hes already allin, but youre all sayin easy call?

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Ya, thats what I meant. You cover him by like 400 so may as well push it all in.

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ahh yes, i understand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Robbie01 · #8 02-26-2007, 10:43 AM

Is it just me but hand 1 must surely be a call if even just for set value am i right? tx

terrible · #9 02-26-2007, 11:14 AM

people really fold hand one here?

Shaver67 · #10 02-26-2007, 11:44 AM

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people really fold hand one here?

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I just start to feel nitty and I find threads like this... perhaps I'm spewing...

1&2) I usually play both of these hands though lately I've been folding 2 more unopened but w/ a limper, like here, I'm playing.

3) depends entirely on the limpers if they're solid I fold , if one or both is the resident muppet, I'm playing and what sort of muppet they are dictates raise/call .

4) shove