Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > General Poker Discussion > Poker Legislation
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-30-2006, 03:33 PM
Grummin Grummin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Willemstad, Curacao
Posts: 287
Default Letter from a poker site employee

For those of you who don’t know me yet, my name is Douglas and I’m a US-born poker site game designer. The actions of my government have branded me a lawbreaker today and I’d like to take this opportunity to make a person response to their actions. I do not speak for my company with this response.

Today, the US Government voted on a Ports Security Bill and passed it. An eleventh-hour rider was snuck onto the bill that makes Internet Gambling more illegal than it already was and just like that, the online US poker-playing public was robbed of their voice.

Millions of players in the US log in to an online poker site each day to take a shot at a tournament or try their luck at a real money ring game. And yet many of them woke up today not knowing that their right to do so has just been ripped from them without any public debate of the issue. Our representatives slipped the American public a mickey and had their way with them while they were unconscious. But since the IG rider was attached to the Ports Security Bill, our representatives get to claim they were “voting on the Ports bill” when they are cornered (sounding very much like the “I didn’t rape her, I was drunk” defense).

As a conservative who was raised Catholic in the farmland of Midwest, today’s actions really let me down. The Republican party is about to get evicted and they are taking everything that’s not nailed down on their way out. As much as I dislike Harry Reid, I actually found myself smiling reading his comments about Republican’s shoving everything onto bills they couldn’t pass on their own.

In my 8 years of developing video games and my 25 years of playing them, I’ve NEVER seen a game like online poker when it comes to bringing the world closer together. Poker gets people playing folks from around the planet, chatting and having fun. Yes, some lose money and some win money, but that’s where the excitement lies in the game. But the important part is they’re losing money to each other when they lose a pot!

The online poker industry would welcome with open arms regulation and taxation on our games, effectively putting the US government’s mind at ease about the “dangers” of money-laundering and terrorist funding. Which then leaves their morality argument, one that dies on the vine with the carve-outs for Lottery, horse-racing, etc. Do they really believe that it’s morally acceptable to lose $5,000 on Frist Suxs to show in the 5th?

In the end, this bill will sadly push away those who just want to have fun and force the professional players in the US into hiding their actions even more. A game that’s found on nearly every TV channel today has once again been shoved into the darkly lit back rooms of the Internet. And as US viewers watch the new Bond film which revolves around a high-stakes poker game, they’ll leave the theater unable to find this thrill themselves unless they live within driving distance of their locally legal casino.

The best thing about the US is that laws can be changed or even overturned. Let's see what happens next.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-01-2006, 01:38 AM
JOHNY CA$H JOHNY CA$H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 804
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

Nice Hand, Sir.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-01-2006, 01:49 AM
jah7_fsu1 jah7_fsu1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,598
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

[ QUOTE ]
Our representatives slipped the American public a mickey and had their way with them while they were unconscious. But since the IG rider was attached to the Ports Security Bill, our representatives get to claim they were “voting on the Ports bill” when they are cornered (sounding very much like the “I didn’t rape her, I was drunk” defense).

[/ QUOTE ]

That is the Royal Flush of comments on this issue. Indeed, a very nice hand sir.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-01-2006, 01:56 AM
RollinHand RollinHand is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: America, Land of the..OH WAIT!
Posts: 1,216
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

Excellent post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-01-2006, 01:56 AM
FastForward7 FastForward7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 34
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Our representatives slipped the American public a mickey and had their way with them while they were unconscious. But since the IG rider was attached to the Ports Security Bill, our representatives get to claim they were “voting on the Ports bill” when they are cornered (sounding very much like the “I didn’t rape her, I was drunk” defense).

[/ QUOTE ]

That is the Royal Flush of comments on this issue. Indeed, a very nice hand sir.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes and no. Yes it was impossible to vote against this bill one one hand. One the other it would most likely have easily passed on it's own. Sorry to say but it's the truth. Underhanded as it may seem the result would have been pretty much the same except for the score. Put the Seattle Seahawks up against your local HS team. Now run it again with Alexander out. What's really going to be the difference?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-01-2006, 01:59 AM
Phil153 Phil153 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,905
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

[ QUOTE ]
I actually found myself smiling reading his comments about Republican’s shoving everything onto bills they couldn’t pass on their own.

[/ QUOTE ]
Wrong. They could have easily have passed the legislation on its own if given more time. There was wide support for an internet gambling bill.

[ QUOTE ]
In my 8 years of developing video games and my 25 years of playing them, I’ve NEVER seen a game like online poker when it comes to bringing the world closer together. Poker gets people playing folks from around the planet, chatting and having fun. Yes, some lose money and some win money, but that’s where the excitement lies in the game. But the important part is they’re losing money to each other when they lose a pot!

[/ QUOTE ]
Pure nonsense. They're losing as much money to the house as they are in a game like blackjack. There's absolutely no difference. The reason some players win is because most players lose so fast they cover the effects of the house's take AND give money to other players as well.

As for the "social" side of things, poker takes away from face to face contact with family and friends. You certainly can't argue that people are more social as a result of online poker. Perhaps a few closeted losers are.

In short, your letter is ridiculous.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-01-2006, 02:00 AM
cking cking is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Open mucking JJ
Posts: 1,608
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

I was woundering why my ass hurt waking up this morning...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-01-2006, 02:03 AM
jah7_fsu1 jah7_fsu1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,598
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

[ QUOTE ]
Wrong. They could have easily have passed the legislation on its own if given more time. There was wide support for an internet gambling bill.

[/ QUOTE ]

Now this is ridiculous. While it might have passed at least it would have gotten the discussion it deserved and not be attatched to something completely unrelated. Even if it did pass, it deserved its own discussion and its own vote.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-01-2006, 02:08 AM
Phil153 Phil153 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,905
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

Of course, and I agree. The attaching of unrelated items to a bill is a gaping hole in your lawmaking system, and there should be rules put in place to stop it. Republicans have done this many times, one of the most infamous being a law that people couldn't sue a large drug maker, which was attached to a defense bill (also by Frist).

But the OP suggested that the bill wouldn't pass on its own, which is nonsense
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-01-2006, 03:51 AM
demon102 demon102 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: magically delicious
Posts: 3,275
Default Re: Letter from a poker site employee

In the legislationg forum I found a link that goes to a website called 911(something) dont remember exactly. But it had an article that said the many of congress didnt want this part of the bill to go through but we in favor of the major part of the bill having to do with protecting our ports from attacks or something and it says that they pretty much couldnt vote against the bill for that reason. I cant believe they can put 2 diffent big issues in 1 set package. Its pretty ridiculous and doesnt make sense to me.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.