$114: the 2nd nuts

[darinvg]

Villain is very LAG: 40/26 300 hands filtered.
Calling for the draw fine? River?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1080)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1950)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1720)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1280)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t40</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t30, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t120) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks

Turn: (t120) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets t60</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t60

River: (t240) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero?

[Q..]

i dont understand that preflop call but that river card is as good as it can get for QTo, pot bet, call allin, no options.

[Little John]

i can see villin having an ace and calling a bet of 200.

[DDBeast]

Do you think he would bluff raise the river/raise a worse hand.

[darinvg]

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Do you think he would bluff raise the river/raise a worse hand.

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I wouldn't think anyone would bluff a 4 flush board so I went w/ a value bet of 120 and he shoved. Now what?

[Q..]

There can be no "right" answer here i guess. Id really like a value bet closer to pot, so and we have better pot odds if he shoves, and hes raise could be defined as stronger hand in general, than a hand required for this lag to reraise a small half pot bet which doesn't looks strong at all. Anyway 40/26 - i call.

[linuxrocks]

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Do you think he would bluff raise the river/raise a worse hand.

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I wouldn't think anyone would bluff a 4 flush board so I went w/ a value bet of 120 and he shoved. Now what?

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If you don't know the answer to that question, you shouldn't be calling the turn bet. But, it's difficult to not pass up the half-pot bet and I have done it many times myself. It's a clear fold in cash. You just have to decide whether K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is in his range and how often you are good. The only hand that makes sense is K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q nonclub or KK with a club. KJ doesn't seem possible, as he would bet the flop. I believe he has it, fold. Check/calling is not bad either.

Side question: how important is it to play post-flop in SNGs now a days? Have you tried regulars, especially 6-max ones?

[linuxrocks]

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There can be no "right" answer here i guess. Id really like a value bet closer to pot, so and we have better pot odds if he shoves, and hes raise could be defined as stronger hand in general, than a hand required for this lag to reraise a small half pot bet which doesn't looks strong at all. Anyway 40/26 - i call.

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This is bad way of thinking. Can't a 40/26 not have KQ with clubs here? That's the question you should be asking, PF stats are meaning less.

[Q..]

I don't think he can't have it ofcourse its very well in his hand handrange. I just say that its less likely then if allin came from 15/5 guy. Also if hes so strong he would less likely go allin and try to extract some value from hes nut flush here, since only hand that can possibly call him is queen and it would probably bet more then half pot here, so i think its more likely he doesn't have us beat then that he has that Kc. As about folding i think preflop fold sounds as ok fold spot. But if we do call what really can we expect if not second nuts flush against 40/26 guy?

[darinvg]

Linux:
Post flop skills? I don’t know for sure. It’s certainly less important than push/fold and good bubble play. Overall I suck post-flop but I guess I’ve gotten a lot better. I still do really well w/ my limited post-flop knowledge. I only play 9 man turbo. Push/fold is my strength (all of my SNGPT work has been w/ 9 man) and $/hr is my goal.