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Old 02-12-2007, 03:08 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

And by crappy, I mean that I didn't make my flush yet.

I have no reads. I thought about folding the turn due to rio.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

nh
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

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Old 02-13-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

MP1 is likely in call down mode. Let's hope he calls the turn giving you 6:1. Looks fine to me.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

Yeah, suppose so subtract roughly 1 out for the non-nut flush and 1 for the paired board, you are left with 7 outs, maybe slightly more. So you need about 6.5:1. You're getting 5:1 already, and if the other guy calls it's 6:1. You'll probably make a bet or two if you hit, not 100% of the time though due to RIOs, so you just about get odds... thin call.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

Right insinct not blowing away the field with a flop raise.

You know with the paired board and such crappy pot odds, I'm actually folding this. It's non-nut the six of spades is a very iffy out, and we might not get paid at all on the river. I figure I'm saving myself some variance at the very least.
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

NH.

I think that a raise here would not pump your draw, but would serve to isolate you with someone that probably has a real hand.

River a spade.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

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Right insinct not blowing away the field with a flop raise.

You know with the paired board and such crappy pot odds, I'm actually folding this. It's non-nut the six of spades is a very iffy out, and we might not get paid at all on the river. I figure I'm saving myself some variance at the very least.

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Old 02-14-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

Pretty marginal turn call in a small pot. You can easily hit and still lose several different ways. I think I find a fold here.

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Old 02-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: J3s on a kinda crappy turn for my draw

you usually have 8 clean outs. i would call.
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