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Old 01-08-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

PokerStars Game #7834901828: Tournament #40048871, $15+$1

virtually first hand

R.J_Legit: posts small blind 10
WhatevDude: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AlphaWice [Qs Qc]
Jonttt: folds
freddy827: folds
AlphaWice: raises 40 to 60
passionata: folds
Maoz2Glory: folds
11-Madmax-11: calls 60
R.J_Legit: folds
WhatevDude: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s 4c 2s]
AlphaWice: bets 120
11-Madmax-11: raises 120 to 240
AlphaWice: folds
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

i didnt give this much thought, i felt like it was obv fold, please discuss
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

shove over minraise.

this is weak overpair or other garbage who knows but u have QQ
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

is it really a weak overpair if he is giving me odds to draw out on him?
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

He could have a 3, a pair of fives, an overpair smaller than queens, or a spade draw. People are dumb and will pay you off with all sorts of junk. I would go all in.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

Anything but folding is awesome.

Pushing is good bc at a $16 theyll pay you off with weak overpairs.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

iono i really felt folding was the right and correct play even though it looks so bad, im suprised noone agrees with me here


against a normal raise i would push, but him minraising has lots of implications

believe me i am not a nit i probably on the aggressive side when it comes to sngs.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

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ono i really felt folding was the right and correct play even though it looks so bad, im suprised noone agrees with me here


against a normal raise i would push, but him minraising has lots of implications

believe me i am not a nit i probably on the aggressive side when it comes to sngs.


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Trying to use logic to explain the play of your opponents at a 16 is an exercise in futility. You can't really consider folding this.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

i dont think 16s are as illogical as u guys think. there are alot of 8tablers here
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: $16 QQ on 245 flop i fold lol im a fish

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i dont think 16s are as illogical as u guys think. there are alot of 8tablers here


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There are a surpising number of breakeven and losing multitablers at the 16s. I think you would need a very specific read on this particlar player to fold this.
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