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Old 02-09-2007, 12:33 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Another big/nitty fold

Villain here is check_kills. Seems basically a bad TAG. Runs at 21/12/3 or so.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $867.50
UTG+1: $545.30
CO: $419.60
Button: $336
SB: $317.70
Hero: $820.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $14</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $50</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($102, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $68</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($238, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($238, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $140</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $427.3</font>, Hero folds
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:37 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

I would usually check river since I checked turn, and either c/c or c/r. I can't see what he can have besides KK/88, and a bad tag isn't pushing AK for value right? This line from bad players is always a monster IME, so I like a fold.
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:46 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

I think some villains shove AK for value here, though I agree this is KK a fair bit. Does 88 really call pf and flop that much?

I think I prefer check flop, bet turn to bet flop, check turn since I think it makes more from marginal pairs etc.
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:49 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

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Does 88 really call pf and flop that much?


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Preflop, definitly. Flop, maybe.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

i would bet the turn nearly 100% of the time here?
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

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i would bet the turn nearly 100% of the time here?

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It's a pretty poor spot to second barrel, so I would check this turn a lot without more info.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

bet bet bet stack AK
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

This is how I would play it
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

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i would bet the turn nearly 100% of the time here?

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Agreed If his read is he's a bad tag were really beat and we can take him to valuetown.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Another big/nitty fold

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i would bet the turn nearly 100% of the time here?

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It's a pretty poor spot to second barrel, so I would check this turn a lot without more info.

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i assume you mean it's a poor spot to 2nd barrel with air...doesn't that make it a great spot to bet for value with aa? i think op's line is fine fwiw.
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