Under-repped Cowboys

FGators · #1 01-30-2007, 12:51 AM

Villain in this hand is a 2+2er. Made comments about me and my BBV history. I usually bet/fold the turn but decided to play this funky. Why, I'm not sure because it put me in a sticky spot. I usually also fold the river a lot of the time but if he floated me on the flop I'm likely good since a lot of the straight draws missed and he also might be raising a hand like AJ for value. I'm also very confused about the turn check on his part. I would think most non draw hands missed. That and 1010,JJ reraise preflop. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($222.80)
UTG ($101.40)
MP ($100)
Button ($58.40)
Hero ($92)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BB raises to $60, Hero calls $46.

Final Pot: $140

FGators · #2 01-30-2007, 12:52 AM

Crap, I just realized this guy runs 13/5 over 60 hands. Maybe that means something.

Jay Riall · #3 01-30-2007, 12:53 AM

Looks fine.

Big Bend · #4 01-30-2007, 12:55 AM

You should be at $100 when the hand starts. I don't like the turn check. I think KK is good 90% of the time and you should be betting for value. I think big blind 2+2er is making a play for the pot on the river. I'd be willing to go AI in this case, but what do I know.

BB

yundmi · #5 01-30-2007, 12:58 AM

ez call cuz everyone wants to bluff fgators.

Fistdantilus · #6 01-30-2007, 03:34 AM

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I played 3K hands today. 50K this month. Nowhere have I seen a 2+2er that would make this bluff raise. Honestly, you people must be playing on a different site than I am.

He calls the flop with Tx because you're making a std cbet (he knows you're 2+2 and will do this 90% of the time). He checks turn because zero overcards hit (he wants you to make TPTK, which probably boats him too). On the river he gets what he wants: you betting. So he makes a value raise. He's 99% sure you DON'T have a better hand, so it's pretty safe. Or he got the cheap straight draw that made it. Either way, I don't see a call here.

A hand like 88 would simply call your bet: there is NO reason to raise because nothing worse calls him. There is NO reason to raise that amount: he's risking 60 to win 34. If he has a hand like 32s and can't even beat a bluff, he does it on the flop/turn when it's cheap.

HOW IS THIS EVER A BLUFF FROM A THINKING PLAYER, ARGH. =(

FGators · #7 01-30-2007, 09:49 AM

Pretty good analysis, fist. He had J10s.

sdfsdf · #8 01-30-2007, 10:10 AM

fold river
only time you want to think about calling this is when a FD missed
raise on the river usually means some nit who was slowplaying a monster

2Paul2 · #9 01-30-2007, 11:29 AM

Given that a slowplay on this board is vry possible(though still dumb) 89 hit and KQ is unlikely given your holding it's a pretty easy fold, + your hand isn't that underepped and don't forget the knobs theorem also.

Paul

Kilillan · #10 01-30-2007, 11:32 AM

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HOW IS THIS EVER A BLUFF FROM A THINKING PLAYER, ARGH. =(

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Actually that's why it's such a good spot to bluff. River raises from tags are almost never bluffs