NL25 standard preflop open amount (poker 101)

[Jurrr]

At NL10 I used 3.5BB + 1BB/limper (except sometimes from the blinds with multiple limpers I raised 1BB to 2BB more as I don't mind them all folding if I'm OOP).

I moved to NL25 today with $0.25 blinds and the old amount is an awkward number to type ($0.88 + $0.25 per limper), so I switched to 4BB + 1BB/limper.

Now I'm am concerned that I'm only basically getting good hands to call me, especially if I'm first in a lot of the times I only get the blinds.

The others seem to use different amounts...

Should I switch to say $0.90 + $0.25 per limper or stay with 4BB? How much do you use?

[Hklm8383]

I always did 4bb +1bb per limper up to 7bb. it worked well for me

[diebitter]

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[MotorBoatingSOB]

I use the pot button, which works out to 3.5BB+1 per limper. Truthfully I don't think there is much difference between this and 4bb+1 per limper, except that your raises get called a little more often by the blinds. I am comfortable playing postflop and don't mind getting called more often since I usually have position and play better than my opponents anyway.

All I will say is that whatever strategy you decide on, apply it consistently. Giving up information with preflop bet sizing is really bad, and is something that a lot of bad players in low stakes games do frequently.

[Cry Me A River]

4BB+1. I'll bet more (ie: OOP at a loose table) but never less.

The fish still call with anything shiny.

If they're not, check the table's PT stats. You may want to move.

[Berge20]

Same for me

[MotorBoatingSOB]

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By the way it is super easy to pick up on who is a 2p2er by the fact that they always bet this amount preflop and almost always cbet the flop. Like it or not, you guys have a lot of the same tendencies as one another and these can be exploited (I didn't learn poker from the 2p2 forums BTW).

I will get way more floaty on low-stakes 2p2ers since they always cbet the flop and almost always give up on the turn when they are OOP and don't have a strong hand. Or raise the flop since they give up there a lot without a monster.

Now that I'm writing this it seems like a thread hijack, so I guess someone could write a new thread about it they find this interesting enough.

[Jurrr]

OK, thanks everyone.

I bet 4bb+1bb/l and it seems to work alright on some tables but I'm just getting the blinds mostly on others.

I guess I'll stick with it.

[Eggpie]

If you are only getting the blinds on some tables, then start raising a few more hands.

I bet 4BB + 1 per limper, and on tables where they fold too much, i just raise with more hands until i start getting called too much.

[mack848]

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All I will say is that whatever strategy you decide on, apply it consistently. Giving up information with preflop bet sizing is really bad, and is something that a lot of bad players in low stakes games do frequently.

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Not giving up information with preflop betting size does not mean that you have to always bet the same whatever your hand. You can use a strategy of mixing it up to suit you (as recommended in NLHTAP).