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Old 01-26-2007, 06:20 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default 200NL - Lost again with KK

I'm not sure what it is about me and KK but I'm fairly certain that i completely SUCK with it. How would you play this hand?

Villain is 32/12/1.6 over 80 hands

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $306.05
CO: $132.80
Button: $433.67
SB: $67.20
BB: $100.97

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $13</font>, Button calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $44</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($133, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $140</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $140 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $133
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

id lead the turn, and probably fold to a raise.
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

I dunno if i love your turn play or hate it :P

His range seems massive, i think because he has JT here alot and other hands like Tx not to mention weaker holdings i think i'd prefer ebtting $35 for value.

If raised ill ditch it, however it would enable us to play it easier.


Taking your line though, if no Q or 7, i think your getting alot of cash from JT spewing. Although then again, if they dont hit and he bets when you check you've now got a HARDDDD decision. Was it JT? QJ? KJ? J8? J9?

was you planning to lead the river?
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

yeesh given stacks I'd bet turn and c/c river.
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

I think checking the turn will get the most value from Villain but it makes the hand a lot harder to play. I would be more prone to make this play against someone that I had more significant reads on. I love this play against donks that will pot the turn and river with 77 or something stupid thinking you obviously have nothing because you checked the turn.

Against an unknown I would bet the turn and likely c/c the river.
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

Yeah I definitely agree I should have bet the turn and that would have saved me the heartache on the river.
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

I pot flop and check/raise turn. he aint slowplaying on that board and only one draw hit.
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

I like leading turn and folding to a raise, if he calls, check call the river given it wasnt a real SCARY card
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not sure what it is about me and KK but I'm fairly certain that i completely SUCK with it. How would you play this hand?

Villain is 32/12/1.6 over 80 hands

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $306.05
CO: $132.80
Button: $433.67
SB: $67.20
BB: $100.97

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $13</font>, Button calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $44</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($133, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $140</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $140 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $133

[/ QUOTE ]

Bet more on flop
Bet turn
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Lost again with KK

im with spacebetween. cr turn is my line here and i think you will find that you usually get JT to put his stack in on this turn.
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