I had TP now I dont

inferno · #1 01-21-2007, 02:01 PM

Villian seems to be reraising me allot preflop which is annoying, other than that I have no perticular read on him. I woudnt call him a super fish.

I get KTs MP I raise, villian 3bets in the CO rest folds
Flop comes KQ6r
I check and he checks behind, which is weird
Turn comes A and also put a flush draw on the board, I check and he bets, I ... call down or is this the easiest fold ever.

akvsaq · #2 01-22-2007, 07:31 AM

Since he is re-raising a lot pf and you don't have a read, I would c/c down. If you're behind a J,K, or T may save you. It could be a slow played monster but I've also seen players who 3B, check behind garbage and decide to bluff the turn. I think it's close but lean towards c/c'ing down.

jstill · #3 01-22-2007, 10:16 AM

id expect him to cb this flop with AJ or AT with the overcard and gutter for all the times i have TT and below on this board, or any Ace really. If he checks thru here with the broadway draw what else is he checking (doesnt sound like he doesnt cb often)?

how many other worse aces do u imagine he 3bets down to A7s? A8o?

id call the turn with possibly ten outs and the chance u are ahead ( he may play an underpair this way and put in his last bet on the turn figuring this line induces bluffs or makes showing down very cheap/ gets lighter calls), then have to reevaluate on the river based on my read of his playing tendencies (which im not sure if u have alot on him yet), often leaning towards folding if he bets again.

Wolfram · #4 01-22-2007, 10:27 AM

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I get KTs MP I raise, villian 3bets in the CO rest folds
Flop comes KQ6r
I check and he checks behind, which is weird

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I'm just wondering what your move would have been had he bet the flop. C/R?

Leader · #5 01-23-2007, 03:19 AM

3-bet-check is a monster on that board greater then 60% of the time especially from someone that's normally agressive. Just fold.

gehrig · #6 01-23-2007, 03:26 AM

i usually peel for free showdown

villain doesnt need to chk an underpair on the end too often for that to be right holla

Leader · #7 01-23-2007, 03:47 AM

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i usually peel for free showdown

villain doesnt need to chk an underpair on the end too often for that to be right holla

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Well he has to have a worse hand an check it 25%. I think that's a lot in this context. I mean if the guy was passive I wouldn't have a problem with it, but when aggressive players do this, it's rarely weakness in my experience.

inferno · #8 01-23-2007, 04:16 AM

leader nailed it here villian had a weird AQo

gehrig · #9 01-23-2007, 06:44 PM

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i usually peel for free showdown

villain doesnt need to chk an underpair on the end too often for that to be right holla

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Well he has to have a worse hand an check it 25%. I think that's a lot in this context.

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hero has outs

jstill · #10 01-23-2007, 08:18 PM

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leader nailed it here villian had a weird AQo

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how did he nail it? AQ was not a flopped monster. His check was actually a sign of weakness here/ trying to get his second pair to showdown cheaply and or induce a bluff or looser call down. Which is the case here after this action very often; at least as often as its a strong hand like KK QQ AK KQ ect.