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Old 01-21-2007, 08:41 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default AK, debateable on all streets

I am playing fairly TAG here, CO is decent, SB is meh, UTG is awful

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.70
Hero: $104.05
CO: $108.70
Button: $100
SB: $130.40
BB: $10.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:44 PM
cbboy cbboy is offline
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

I probably bet $15 or so. See what happens from there.
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

Im betting around 18 here and then playing it by ear. I'd like to think a decent flop bet will fold hands like JT and QK. I may be prepared to fold if raised on the flop but checking behind on this flop is out of the question so we bet for both value and information.
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

I bet $16. Lots of worse hands that can call if SB and UTG are bad. I'd be worried about a call from CO, though.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:12 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

I felt there was a good chance that it got checked through here if I check, unless CO has 2pr+ hes not firing, IMO, into 3 ppl on this board with air, or even a draw with the chance to see a free card.

I also thought it would make playing the other streets much easier without the bloated pot.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.70
Hero: $104.05
CO: $108.70
Button: $100
SB: $130.40
BB: $10.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero


The flop got checked through, and a T9 draw got there, but thats it. Still no lead, and I have to think I have the best hand here. Tons of draws might call me down, and maybe some KQish stuff too. Is this a auto-bet?
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

If you dont bet now, muck your cards and go play scrabble.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

no check it down they probably have QQ and JJ and are sloowwwwwplaying you.

bet flop yo
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:19 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

[ QUOTE ]
If you dont bet now, muck your cards and go play scrabble.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is true, so ill skip to river.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.70
Hero: $104.05
CO: $108.70
Button: $100
SB: $130.40
BB: $10.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls, 2 folds.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($53, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $35</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $123


This is how the hand played out. What do u guys think of the river play? should I b-f? c/c? c/f?

I think any and all are viable.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:19 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

flop check is fine, bet now
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: AK, debateable on all streets

fold the river, what hands is he betting here (that he called on the turn) that you have beat? a10? is CO decent enough to call on the turn just to bluff you on the river? in a 100nl game i don't think "Decent" players have such skill, so yeah, fold
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