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Old 01-15-2007, 01:02 PM
teddyFBI teddyFBI is offline
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Default Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

Somewhat proud of this move -- I think it's kosher.

Live 5/10NL game at the Taj. I'm UTG+1.

UTG (v weak-tight) limps, I haven't looked at my cards yet, but player to my left (decent young guy who I think knows that i might be the only other player at the table who knows anything) raises to $50 out of turn.

Dealer catches it, and informs him (and rest of table) that I haven't yet acted, but that regardless he is committed to raising to $50 when it comes to him. I look down at my cards, and see rags. I pause perceptibly and decide to make a play here and limp.

He duly raises to $50...it gets folded around to UTG who calls, I insta-raise to $375. He mutters something about my playing dirty and folds (as does UTG), and i add $115 to my stack. (I obv show my 93o).

This gets him more agitated (personally i thought that pulling that stunt with a legitimate monster would have been more grounds for complaint), and he mutters something about an angleshoot. I thought it was a pretty nice 2nd-level by me (e.g. he knew that I knew that he was committed to his raise, and thus read me for a monster hand trying to get more $ preflop).

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Old 01-15-2007, 01:12 PM
WYDGD WYDGD is offline
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

I like it, perfectly legit. If he was paying attention he never would have had that problem in the first place. I wouldn't have rubbed it in by showing the 9-3, but there is nothing fishy with that play other than the guy playing out of turn.....
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Old 01-15-2007, 01:16 PM
KenProspero KenProspero is offline
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

I 'think' you're on the right side of the line.

UTG got screwed out of $50 because you had extra information before you bet. However, you got the information legitimately, and I think you're allowed to act on it as you see fit.
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Old 01-15-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

Legit. Why'd u show?
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Old 01-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

Must be a good game.
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

The move was fine. Though, I wouldn't have shown.
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:24 AM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

not an angle.

i hope the 'decent young guy' is not folding everything but premiums UTG+1 fr..
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

I think this is a really sweet move, personally.

I tend to be a bit of an ass at the tables periodically and try to put jerks on tilt/build action for me, so I can admit it's a bit of a dick move, but at the same time, I'm pretty impressed.

NH.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

Funny stuff.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:32 PM
SplawnDarts SplawnDarts is offline
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Default Re: Dirty angleshoot, or sweet 2nd level by me??

It's definitly NOT an angle. He gave the information away. I'm not sure it was the safest of plays, though. If I were him I'd be aware that you were in a position to make a play, and limping into a dealer-mandated raise is a real warning that something funny is going on.

I probably would have called with a good part of my raising range in his position. But you clearly were on the right level of thinking for this opponent, so congrats.
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