C/C or B/F, Don't Tell Me B/C This Gutshot Board

[TomBrooks]

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, UTG calls.

River: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero...

I've been banging this table pretty good and am generally getting respect. CO is very passive postflop and wouldn't try any stunts. UTG just got here so I don't know about him. I'm don't want to call a raise. No No No. Don't tell me B/C.

[nickg1532]

CO is passive? I say B/C. he will call with worse Aces, KQ, KJ etc. you can easily fold if he raises and i think you can easily fold if UTG c/r's you, especially if the pot is protected at that point.

[sharpie]

You need another option on the poll that says bet/fold against CO, bet/fold against UTG if the pot is protected, and bet/call against UTG if we're heads up.

[inferno]

its a b/f against anyone, I dont see a non T raising this river

[nickg1532]

in my post above i meant to say b/f, not b/c

[scottfred]

I agree with Sharpie, bet and see what happens

[Oink]

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You need another option on the poll that says bet/fold against CO, bet/fold against UTG if the pot is protected, and bet/call against UTG if we're heads up.

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I agree. Not betting out in these spot cuz you are scared of a raise is leaving money on the table. Go get that value.

[TomBrooks]

OK. I don't mind betting. In fact I'd like to bet 2 pair on a four straight board. Most of the time it's value. You have to be able to fold to a raise though. Calling a raise and getting shown a straight that is obviously there is an awful feeling. OK to calling if it's HU versus an unknown. Sounds good.

[Heisenb3rg]

bet for sure.

As for calling and folding, some people do bluff here, but it's very rare and probabily not enough to warrent a call. Most two pair hands have no reason to raise this river, and little gets there besides a diamond draw that has any reason to bluff.

[jstill]

can we not check and fold, thats gotta be an option on this poll?

is CO valuebetting KQ or A7 i doubt it, esp given ur read. I think i like bet fold best; (altho if it ends up HU with UTG and he check-raises im feeling suspicious since hes an unknown and this 4 card str in a 3 way pot usually gets donked as he often only gets to check-raise when hes splitting), but i like ck fold better than ck call or bet call.