winrates 2/4, 3/6, 5/10

Alex424 · #1 01-16-2007, 07:37 AM

not an easy question to ask as anyone can lie and exaggerate here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

but ive just started playing 3/6 and have no meaningful stats as yet. opposition standard as opposed to 2/4 is not much different.

For those of you who play 2/4 and also 3/6 or higher, i'm curious as to how your bb/100 changed at 3/6 and even 5/10.

After playing 2/4 for 34,000 hands my bb/100 was 1.72 mainly on UB.

What can i expect in the jump up, will the rake have less of an impact at this rate?

Is it worth the extra investment to skip 3/6 and play 5/10 as the rake has less of an impact at this level.

I'm very cautious and will not take shots at higher limits as i think you are asking for trouble and i only play with 500BB in my bankroll, but maybe its worth the extra investment to skip out on a limit where rake effects profit significantly.

HoneyBadger · #2 01-16-2007, 07:42 AM

I hate to play insufficient-sample-size-police... but 34k hands really says nothing about your winrate. Your true winrate can easily be in the negatives still. I wouldn't skip levels, you'll be playing with scared money at 5/10; almost a guarantee for losing.

Alex424 · #3 01-16-2007, 07:47 AM

really, i agree its not as many as i'd like, but surely its enough to show its in the right direcetion

Allday Everyday · #4 01-16-2007, 07:58 AM

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After playing 2/4 for 34,000 hands my bb/100 was 1.72 mainly on UB.

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I think 1.72/100 is an excellent winrate. I think you are probably a good player. However, I think you should play at the very least 60K hands and beyond to get a better idea of your winrate.

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will the rake have less of an impact at this rate?

Is it worth the extra investment to skip 3/6 and play 5/10 as the rake has less of an impact at this level.

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I have played hundreds of thousands of hands at both 3/6 and 5/10. I think it would depend on what site you are playing, etc. However, I have found that in general there isn't much relief in rake when you get up to 5/10. I think jumping to 5/10 from 2/4 for this or any other reason I can think of would be a bad move.

As I understand, 10/20 is the level where the rake starts to hurt much less...

HoneyBadger · #5 01-16-2007, 08:12 AM

Ok, maybe I sounded a bit harsh... yes, it is a nice winrate. Excellent even. However, people seriously underestimate the required sample sizes to accurately determine winrates. A million hands would be a start. In 100k hands it can easily swing up or down by a whole BB or more.

Alex424 · #6 01-16-2007, 08:17 AM

yeah, the last 6K hands or so ive run very well so i guess that has distorted it slightly

HoneyBadger · #7 01-16-2007, 08:22 AM

Well it's reasonable to assume you're a winning player.

Alex424 · #8 01-16-2007, 08:51 AM

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people seriously underestimate the required sample sizes to accurately determine winrates.

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yeah, ive been guilty of that in the past when i first started. I remember for my first 5K hands at 1/2 having a win rate of about 7, resulting in phil ivey syndrome thinking i was some kind of poker god, only to come crashing back down to earth very shortly