JJ 50NL with OESD flop

[jdubster]

any thoughts ? I had just sat down... can I consider folding to the big flop raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($45.90)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($108.05)
MP1 ($39.95)
MP2 ($47.50)
CO ($135.20)
Button ($47.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
[color=#666666]3 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]CO raises to $2.5</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($5.25) 8, T, 9 [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4.5</font>, [color=#CC3333]CO raises to $25</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $47.5</font>, CO calls $22.50.

Turn: ($100.25) Q [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

River: ($100.25) 5 [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $100.25

[Claunchy]

Reraise preflop.

Everything else is fine.

[jdubster]

thanks...

[orange]

nice turn...RR pf is goot. post flop played fine.

[Esperante]

yep. rr pf...

everything else is fine.

[jdubster]

thanks guys, I am getting blasted on another board for this- saying it's an easy fold- I just don't see it.

[Wu36]

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thanks guys, I am getting blasted on another board for this- saying it's an easy fold- I just don't see it.

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yeah, bet/fold there looks abysmal.

[ajmargarine]

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thanks guys, I am getting blasted on another board for this- saying it's an easy fold- I just don't see it.

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First, in the future, note that NL50 hands should be posted in the microstakes NL forum.

And, this isn't an "easy" fold. But, it's more of a fold than it is a push. His flop raise on a dangerous board isn't a bluff, it's often 88+, and you are a 2:1 dog to that range. You have to add a lot of other junk in there for this push with 0 FE to be +EV. Alot. The most likely hand you beat playing like this is JT, and you have two of the Jacks, diminishing that.

Hoping he is overplaying AT is folly.

[Redd]

I don't see why postflop is so standard? This actually seems like a v.interesting hand to me.

It looks to me like a good majority of the time we're drawing to our 8-10 outs plus whatever fold equity a push gets us. By the looks of it that FE is almost zero, and we're not getting odds to draw, so a fold seems reasonable to me.

A question for the SSNL BSDs: as played preflop, is a lead the right move on the flop? I can see arguments for both leading and checking, but my puny brain can't decide the right play.

[jdubster]

TY. I didn't realize I posted in the wrong forum, my bad. And I see the argument for folding based on my 0 FE- if I am deeper stacked, maybe a different story. Still hard to fold, often his range is 88+ as you say, but not always? If you through a couple more hands in the mix ( TJ, AT ( a lag donk perhaps), perhaps even 77 )then it's alot closer.