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Old 01-12-2007, 12:11 PM
TripleH68 TripleH68 is offline
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Default Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Villain(button) is 29/15/3.0 over just 60 hands.
SB is tight/passive. 16/7/1.2/96.
I have been playing aggressively - hitting and missing while button has been at the table.
If he is paying attention he will know I might be aggressive with a wide range here.

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks,

What's the plan Stan?
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

bet, if he raises, 3 bet (this is such a monster hand. it's likely nobody has a king, in that case you have a gutshot, a flushdraw, and two overs)

And bet the turn on a blank.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

I second that!
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

seems like a really easy checkraise to me.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

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seems like a really easy checkraise to me.

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Old 01-12-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

why?
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

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why?

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trap sb for an extra sb. gain fold equity. have sb around when we make our draw.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

Grunch

I think if you're fairly certain button will cbet, go for the c/r/cap if you can get it. You'll trap the sb for as many bets as he wants to put in.

You've got 12 outs twice so far.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

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seems like a really easy checkraise to me.

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Totally. Assuming the pfraiser bets, two things happen. Both scenarios are sweet:

1. SB folds. Then we are heads-up, with initiative, and we're not just in a heads-up pissing contest from the beginning. We earn valuable bluff equity and can follow through on the turn with a bet and maybe get something like AQ, AJ, 88, etc. to fold.

2. SB calls. Then we have a monster draw with at least 12 outs and a huge equity pumping the pot against two opponents. We've set up the perfect equity-exploitation situation: multiple opponents, each putting in a single bet, where we have very, very clean equity.


So hit it with a smoove and check-raise.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal: flopping flush/straight draw from the BB.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks and prepares to fold.

Would you say well played? Standard? Cap the flop?
Once villain 3-bets the flop is he committed to a showdown?
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