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Old 01-11-2007, 02:40 AM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default New to Draw, preflop guide

Hello,

I've just started playing the 6-max limit 5CD games on stars, and was wondering about appropriate tightness playing 6-max. I've got a limited amount of experience with draw, but it was full-ring and the games were full of maniacs, so the strategy was far different.

I was wondering if a competent player could critique these starting usmy educated guess, which is probably way off in areas, but that's what criticism's for.

UTG and UTG+1 - Raise A's, K's or better, fold everything else. Against a raise, reraise with 2pair+, fold the rest.

CO - Raise A's-Q's, fold everything else. Against a raise, reraise with 2pair+, fold the rest

Button - If no limpers, raise A's-T's, fold the rest. If limpers, call with 8's-J's, raise with Q's+, fold the rest. Against a raise, reraise with 2pair+, fold the rest.

SB - If no raise, limp a 4 flush, any pair, or a 4-straight. Raise Q's+, fold all but 2pair+ to a raise. If no limpers, raise with 8's+.

BB - Raise with QQ+, call for one bet with a 4flush or 4straight if against a raise and 1+ callers (pot odds plus implied should be good here, correct?). Call for one bet with A's or K's, reraise 2pair+.

Any comments/advice/absolute flames appreciated, looking forward to the forum!

Danny
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: New to Draw, preflop guide

Preflop is extremely tricky in this game.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: New to Draw, preflop guide

you've got it about right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
do observe and notarize you opponents, and be prepared to diverge from these standards accordingly. but versus unknowns, what you have listed will get the monies.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: New to Draw, preflop guide

You're 4.25:1 against hitting your flush and 4.75:1 against hitting a straight. So why would you complete the SB with those draws with no one in the pot ahead of you? Fold them.

Weisenberg suggests the following, and I have found that it works really well:

With six players at the table and no one in the pot ahead of you:

Raise AA or better UTG.
Add KK UTG+1.
Add QQ and JJ in CO.
Add TT on the button and strong 99.
In the SB, limp-call with AQ through 66, raise with 77 or better.

Those guidelines are if you're playing limit. They're pretty much the same in PL or NL with a few tweaks.

Check Weisenberg's archive at cardplayer.com. He has written some excellent articles on 5CD strategy.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:31 PM
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You're 4.25:1 against hitting your flush and 4.75:1 against hitting a straight. So why would you complete the SB with those draws with no one in the pot ahead of you? Open-raise them, conti bet regardless

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FYP.

Believe OP refers to when nobody has RAISED, i.e. bunch of limpers. Where i'm happy to complete.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:04 PM
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You're 4.25:1 against hitting your flush and 4.75:1 against hitting a straight. So why would you complete the SB with those draws with no one in the pot ahead of you? Open-raise them, conti bet regardless

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FYP.

Believe OP refers to when nobody has RAISED, i.e. bunch of limpers. Where i'm happy to complete.

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OP doesn't really specify that, now that I read it again. I interpreted his question for being first in the pot, which was my response.

In limit 5CD: come draws (except for straight-flush draws) in SB, complete only if you have a couple of limpers in ahead of you, otherwise fold. In BB, call one bet if two or more are in before you, otherwise fold. Fold them in all other positions.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: New to Draw, preflop guide

or i fyou're me play anyway
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