(1/2) KK on coordinated flop

[Jonathan]

Hi,

I thought this hand was a little tricky due to the fact
that the opener raised PF and called a big bet and also
the all [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flop.

What does everyone think of my line of play here?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($286.35)
MP3 ($103)
CO ($229.35)
Button ($57.30)
SB ($50.15)
Hero ($245.80)
UTG ($98.65)
UTG+1 ($192)
MP1 ($403.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, MP2 calls $8.

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $28</font>, MP2 calls $28.

Turn: ($89) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: ($89) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $40</font>, Hero calls $40.

Final Pot: $169

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ks Kc (flush, king high).
MP2 has Qc Qs (flush, queen high).
Outcome: Hero wins $169. </font>

[vanHelsing]

raise more PF, then get the money in on turn.

[boxedIn]

More than a min-raise PRF, especially from out of position. Jack it up to maybe $25, $30 PRF.

On the flop, the fact that you have the K of spades is crucial. With that fact in hand, I think you can bet with confidence on all three streets. I like a pot-sized bet on both the flop and turn, as it appears villian has a weak hand that is, at best, drawing, and you need to punish that.

On the river, I would still pot it (or a little bit less than pot), as you have 2nd nut flush and may get paid off by a lesser flush; you have no reason to give villian credit for nut flush here.

In all, I think you played it too timidly and you could probably make a lot more money off this type of hand.

[mayday4379]

I would consider raising to $100 on the River. Before you do that, you have to decide if youre calling a push from the villain. If you would, then raise it on the river.

I don't mind the turn check, you didn't want to build a big pot with 3 spades on the flop.

[bkholdem]

Bet that turn every time.

[TheStation]

Preflop: No one ever folds to a min raise preflop, gotta make it $24-32 to go preflop, any hand you want to call you isn't going anywhere.

Bet pot on flop. Shove on turn.

If he would have had a naked As he would have only had to call one pot sized bet on the flop to get there and you each have pretty big stacks. Keep extracting on the turn and he ends up having the perfect hand to pay you off. Check/calling down after flop on this board is really weak and normally not a good thing with KK

[vanHelsing]

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I don't mind the turn check, you didn't want to build a big pot with 3 spades on the flop.

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But you want to play a big pot with the 2nd nut flush? Give a free card on turn, then pay off big on river? Not my plan!

[Jonathan]

[ QUOTE ]
raise more PF, then get the money in on turn.

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On the turn I have $201. So you are suggesting I bet
$201 into an $89 pot?

Why do you like to make such a massive overbet?
Why should I give away my entire stack to a made flush?

Suerte,
Jonathan

[Jonathan]

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Bet that turn every time.

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And what is my plan if opponent puts me all-in?

Jonathan

[PlayaHata]

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