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Old 01-03-2007, 10:58 PM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

First hand at the table. I've been card dead since the start of the tournament. That is all.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t710)
Hero (t2000)
BB (t330)
UTG (t2585)
UTG+1 (t1665)
MP1 (t1955)
MP2 (t1560)
MP3 (t2705)
CO (t1415)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t330</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1415</font>, Hero...?

I probably should have raised a bit more preflop, but in the end it really didn't make that much of a difference.

I expected BB to shove, but the overshove by the limper kind of confused me.

Any ideas on this one?
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:16 PM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

My gut says folding here is better than calling off 24bb w/ TT. At least we get to see wtf he's doing this with.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

God I don't know. CO could have a mid-pocket pair and is making an isolation raise, that's really the only thing that makes sense.
I think I would just fold here since you aren't getting good pot odds.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

The CO doesn't really have to have anything here- she can raise to isolate and pickup your dead money with something like 22-88, KJ+, A5s+. These are all hands that you are beating.

The buy-in level might suggest that your opponent isn't limping with the intention of pushing, but your read should tell you if she's likely to try this.

I think you should call and expect to race for the chips the BB hasn't claimed. There is a not insignificant chance both villains have Ax, which would be pure butter.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:53 PM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

i like a fold unless tbl is wacked out loose/maniacal
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

Some of you people really suck, this is a instacall. If it wasn't 1st hand I'd say I complete here a lot if I had a read the BB would shove redic wide, than CO calls and I win a bigger pot.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

i like completing or making it less, if u raise 150 more to 200 and bb pushes 130 more and co flatcalls, you cant reraise. seeing as it wont be too much to CO (who is probably a loose-ish player if he's open-limping the CO) this scenario happens a decent percentage of the time.

but if u do it this way, i would call every time, looks like 66 imo, also bb has almost everything so thats some dead money in the pot.
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

Easy call. You really think CO is limp-pushing JJ+ here?
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

call, this is like always 77 or 88 from CO.
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: 4/180: I have no idea what to make of this preflop action

(w/o reading other replies) ...

I put the limper / pusher on over cards, trying to isolate. You have to call 1200 into a 1900 pot and you would have 800 behind if you lost, 4k if you won. I like the1.6:1 odds on a flip. Ez call.
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